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Hillary or Obama? She or He? 
March 29, 2008 |
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Astrology Diary Archives |
By Col. A.K. Gour
Written on March 2, 2008 for www.journalastrology.com
Please note that the birth data for both Clinton
and Obama has not been confirmed.
Will the Democrats choose Her or will they choose Him to be
their Presidential candidate for the 4th November American Elections
of 2008? Both HER and HIM are going to create history. HER -
Hillary Clinton would be the first Lady President and HIM -
Barack Obama would be the first black President. Let us forecast
the result of Democratic convention to be held in June/August
where they will nominate their Presidential candidate.
Hillary Clinton's Natal Chart
Barack Obama's Natal Chart
It is proposed to examine the two horoscopes in the light of
following parameters:-
(a) Is HE/SHE Lucky?:
In any election it is better to be lucky than competitive.
(b) The Lagna Nakshatra Lord: The lord of Lagna Nakshatra
has a relation with the Karma-Sthan. “Karmas” tend
to succeed during the Dasha/Antardasha of the Lagna Nakshatra
Lord.
(c) The Sun: The American
President is the most powerful person in the world. Sun would
be crucial in deciding the election for this office.
(d) The “Simhasan” (Lion's seat):
4th house is the “Simhasan”. The stronger it is,
the better are the chances of sitting on the throne.
(e) The Jaimini Rajyogas: One needs “Rajyogas”
to be the President. Jaimini Rajyogas are an unfailing indicator.
Remember, they fructify in conformity with their strength in
the Navamsha.
(f) The Dashas:
Examine Vimshhotri and Chara dasha for potency in the fulfillment
of the efforts to gain power.
The Analysis:
(a) Is HE/SHE Lucky?
He: The 4th house is “Simhasan”
and the 9th house is luck. The mutal aspect of the 4th lord
Saturn and 9th lord Mercury augurs well for “luck,”
supporting the persons bid for the throne. Obama’s lagna
lord is Venus. This Venus is within the 9th house. The person
is lucky.
SHE: The 9th lord from
the lagna is Saturn and the 9th lord from Moon is Mars. Now
see Mars and Saturn, the two luck providing lords, conjuct in
2nd house from lagna. She's a lucky and wealthy lady. The lagna
lord of the lucky lady is retrograde in fifth house conjunct
with fifth lord (Venus) aspected by 11th lord Mars from 2nd
house. A Dhana yoga is visible, would it luckily translate into
Raja yogas?
HE is luckier being closer to the “Prarabdha” (fate)
making ninth house, the lady is closer to her “Poorva
Punyas” (past life merit) indicated by her fifth house
connections.
(b) The lagna Naksahtra Lord:
The Jupiter for Him and Rahu for Her. Jupiter in His case aspects
the 10th house and 10th lord, Moon. Rahu in Her case aspects
Jupiter, her 10th Lord in 6th house. Obama is in Jupiters’s
maha dasha and Hillary has Rahu’s antar dasha. Both are
on the threshold of writing history.
Note an interesting sidelight. Jupiter is debilitated in His
case and Rahu is exalted in Hers. Jupiter is with his dispositor
getting a “Raja yoga karak Neecha Bhanga” in 4th
house of Simhasan. Both Jupiter and his dispositor, yoga karak
Saturn, are in the Sun’s nakshatra – Presidency
is faintly visible. Rahu on Her case is exalted, is in Sun’s
Nakshatra and is the current antar dasha lord in Sun’s
maha dasha. She is also close to the Presidency but Obama is
closer. [Rahu as lagna nakshatra lord in 12th house has given
her much publicized and notorious bedroom. Her 7th lord (Jupiter)
with Ketu in 6th house has promoted this discomfiture].
(c) The Sun: Obama has a digbala Sun
in his 10th house with 9th lord Mercury - a potent Raja yoga.
In stark and telling contrast, Hillary has a debilitated Sun
in 5th house with 5th lord (Venus). She is encashing her “poorva
punyas” while he is making his “prarabdh”.
He is ahead.
(d) The Simhasan 4th house:
HE: The 4th lord Saturn in 4th house - this house is
strong. 4th lord Saturn is retrograde, another source of strength.
Jupiter, the 6th lord is conjunct with 4th lord - injects competition
with a will to fight. Sun, the 11th lord aspecting from 10th
house where Sun is digbala enhances the chances of getting the
simhasan. Mercury is the ninth lord and its aspect on fourth
lord makes the person lucky. Saturn is the ninth lord from Moon
and Sun is the fourth lord from Moon. Strong chances for annexing
the throne.
SHE: 4th lord Mercury
is in 5th house, kendra lord in trine – gives Raj yoga
results. Aspect of Mars (ninth lord from Moon) makes her lucky
in competitions. Mars is 6th lord from ascendant. Her claim
to “throne” is weaker than Obama’s claim.
(e) The Jaimini Raja yogas: These Raja
yogas are formed by interaction of Atma Karak (AK), Amatya karak
(AMK), Putra karak (PK), Dara karak (DK) and the 5th lord. Their
result conform to the strength in Navamsha.
Let us go directly to the Navamshas.
Barack Obama's Navamsha Chart
HE:
Gemini, a dual sign rises in the Navamsha. Dual signs aspect
all other dual signs. Mercury in Virgo, Venus, Sun (AmK), Mars
(AK) in 7th house with Moon, Jupiter (Pk) in 10th house ensure
that the kendras are influenced by six planets including three
Raj yoga karaks. A strong display of power worthy of a presidential
aspirant.
Hillary Clinton's Navamsha Chart
SHE: Sagittarius, a dual sign rises in her Navamsha
lagna also. She has Sun (PK) in lagna, Saturn (AK) in the 4th
house, Mercury (AmK) in 7th house and Jupiter in 10th house.
Three raj yoga karaks in kendras here also. She is a worthy
opponent. In comparing the two cases, 7th house (pad prapti
- attainment of status) is a bit of a give away. He has 3 planets
including AK/AmK- the Sun and Mars, a very potent and strong
combination in the 7th house aspected by Moon, Jupiter, Mercury
from 10th and 4th house. In Her case comparatively, Mercury,
who's retrograde as AmK is in the 7th house. It has the aspect
of three other planets including two Raja yoga karakas. Her
retrograde Mercury is the 7th lord. This is in the Navamsha.
Has she already enjoyed the pad (status) by virtue of her husband
being the President? Fighting equally, Obama has a slight advantage.
(f) The Dashas:
HIM:
Vimshottari dasha - Jupiter/Venus untill July 11, 2008, then
Jupiter/ Sun from July 11, 2008 until April 29, 2009. Jupiter,
the maha dasha lord, is the 6th lord from the ascendant. Venus,
the antar dasha lord, is the 6th lord from the Moon. Benefics
as 6th lords tend to be too soft in hard competitions. But these
two “Gurus”, being not very amicable to one another,
are also burdened by their 8th lordship - Venus is 8th lord
from Lagna, and Jupiter is the 8th lord from the Moon. Despite
the fact that the dasha of the lagna lord is career promoting,
and Venus is lagna lord, and Jupiter is lagna nakhshatra lord;
their 8th house connection infuses “unexpectedness”
in the issue. Jupiter/ Venus is on until the July 11th - a Democratic
Convention after July 11th should see Obama surge and get the
Presidential nomination. Jupiter/Sun would ensure it. Sun is
11th lord in 10th house digbala and conjunct 9th lord Mercury
producing a potent raj yoga, which aspects the 4th house of
Simhasan, where yog karka Saturn is nestling with maha dasha
lord and 6th lord Jupiter.
Chara Dasha - Here again for this August 4th 1961 born Obama,
July 4th until August 4th 2008 period of Leo/Leo is crucial.
Leo is 11th house rashi aspected by DK Saturn and PK Jupiter
from Capricorn - the 4th house chara rashi. AK, Mars is placed
in Leo. Leo also aspects the 7th house, the house of Pada-Prapti.
Maybe he will squeak through.
HER:
Vimshottari dasha - Sun/Rahu from January 30, 2008 to December
3, 2008. Sun is her 3rd lord of efforts in 5th house, which
further strengthens her efforts as it is the “bhavat bhavam”
house of the 3rd. Sun from Moon is 6th lord, which will give
strength to compete but is in the 8th house from Moon. There
is a “vipreet raj yoga” which may cause her down
fall in close competition. The 8th house can and does cause
surprises. Rahu is her Nakshatra lagna lord in 12th house. It
is transiting in Aquarius her 9th house. So far so good. On
May 5, 2008, Rahu would enter Capricorn, the lady’s eighth
house. Sun had activated her 8th house from Moon and Rahu on
May 5 2008 will activate her 8th house from the ascendant. This
lady is looking to be a loser.
Chara dasha - Virgo/Libra from October 26, 2007 until September
25, 2008. Then Virgo/Scorpio from September 25, 2008 until August
25, 2009. Virgo is the dasha of 4th house rashi. It has the
aspect of Moon, the DK from 10th house. Her dara (spouse), Bill
Clinton is the power, promoting and leading her to this Simhasan
in the 4th house. It now becomes evident. Libra is a power packed
rashi. It does not appear to match the Obama strength.
The 10/11 test: This principle is that
a planet during it dasha/antar dasha gives results in accordance
with the strength shown by SAV (Sarvashtakavarga) points in
the 10th house from the planet. The quantum of betterment/achievements
is indicated by the differential of points between the 10th
and 11th houses. (The 11th house should be more than the 10th
house for achievements.) This is K.N. Rao’s research from
1995, and has been dealt with in detail in my book, Professions
- inclinations, fructifications and career profile.
HIM Jupiter/Sun from July 11, 2008 until April 29, 2009.
10th/11th
Jupiter 30/34
Sun 28/34
In Jupiter/Sun Obama is on a strong wicket. Venus has 33 in
10th house but only 28 in the 11th house from itself. So until
July 11th, his 11th house is touch and go.
HER Sun/Rahu from January 30, 2008 to December 3, 2008.
10th/11th
Su 24/41
Ra 25/32
The lady is no pushover. Sun is debilitated lord of 3rd house
- it has given good results by bringing her this far in being
a powerful person in the world, but would it overcome Obama’s
strength in June/August 2008?
Conclusion:
I have attempted to examine a current issue from a different
point of view and by less used techniques. The travel has been
very informative and pleasant - one hopes that one would reach
the predicted destination and come June/August a coloured person
would be competing for this Presidentship of U.S.A.
I would like to conclude by quoting Valmiki Ramayana- Kishikindha
kand, Sarg 12/32, where Ram tells Sugriva:
“You
and Bali are so similar in every little thing that I could not
differentiate between the two of you and hence I did not shoot.”
These two are also very similar but one of them has to be picked
up. Sugreev was differentiated by giving him a garland, and
June/August 2008 may provide us a differentiating garland for
the winner.
reprinted with permission
Copyright
2010. Vaughn Paul Manley. All Rights Reserved. |
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