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Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby rajath25 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:10 am

Dear esteemed astrologers,

As most are aware, Saturn and Mars will be transiting together through Virgo from June 22nd thru August 13th and through Libra from August 14th thru September 29th.

Needless to say, Saturn and Mars conjunction even during transit is highly malefic and will impact everyone in one way or the other.

I kindly request the esteemed astrologers of this forum to shed their light on the upcoming transit of Saturn and Mars in Virgo and Libra and its effects for the 12 rashis/lagna.

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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:53 pm

Rajath25,

Thanks for giving the dates of these transits or Gochar of Saturn and Mars conjunction.

These transits will have different impact on each chart, depending upon where Mars and Saturn are in every individual's chart, how powerful or weak they are, whether they are conjunct or aspected by another planet and where Virgo and Libra signs fall in one's chart.

It will also depend upon what kind of relation Mars and Saturn have with a particular Lagna or Rashi.

Not going into these depths, in general for Virgo Lagna, Saturn-Mars conjunction in the Lagna is not good. This is because Saturn has a friendly placement in the Lagna, but Mars is toning down the positive effects of Saturn in Virgo - yesterday, this conjunction has happened when Saturn was just finishing its retrograde motion in Virgo and was about to give its positive effects to the Virgo Lagna people by becoming direct in a few days' time.

Hence, Mars conjunction has reduced this positive effect for the Virgo Lagna people. They have to avail of the benefits of Saturn in Lagna by overcoming conflicts posed by Mars. Health problems, accidents and injuries, sudden outbursts of temper may happen during this conjunction. There may be many a slip between the cup and the lip i.e., many opportunities may present themselves but no gains may materialise.

Mars aspecting 8th house in Aries from the Virgo Lagna is also not good.

Mars-Saturn conjunction in 2nd house of Libra for Virgo Lagna people will again affect the wealth and family situation with conflicting situations. Saturn aspecting 4th house in Sagittarius will enhance this.

However, Mars aspect on 5th house in its exaltation sign will be good for creative, intellectual and romantic matters. Mars aspect on 9th in its adverse sign is not good, so ultimately no long term gains may materialise.

For Libra Lagna, Saturn in 12th house in Virgo is bad and Libra Lagna people have been facing the adverse effect of 12th Saturn for some time, especially because Saturn is retrograde. For them, Mars conjunction with Saturn in 12th house will reduce the adverse impact of 12th Saturn to some extent. Hence, Virgo conjunction is not bad for them.

Soon after Saturn becomes exalted in Libra Lagna once again, Mars will follow and will be conjunct with Saturn in Libra Lagna. This conjunction will reduce the exaltation effect of Saturn for Libra Lagna people and will create conflicting situations for them. However, Mars aspect on 7th in Aries its own sign will not be bad for the Lagna people.

Mars is the Lagna lord for Aries Lagna people. Saturn strong in 6th has been increasing conflicts for them for some time. Now, Lagna Lord Mars has joined Saturn there to tone down these conflicts. This means that these people will reduce their adversities with their own efforts, because Mars is their ruler. Their subordinates may try to pose threats to them at work, which they have to counter with their own efforts.

Saturn exalted in 7th should have been good for their relationships, but Mars conjunction there will cause problems on personal front. This will be enhanced by Mars' 8th aspect on the 2nd house. However, Mars aspecting its own Lagna will be good for the Aries Lagna people.

Please note that Gochar can never overtake the overall effects of the Mahadasha combination running and Mahadasha combination can never overtake the overall effect of the Lagna chart of a person. Hence, these effects will happen in varying degrees in every person's life.

Besides, let's not forget Jupiter, who is aspecting Virgo and hence, will induce benefic effects from both Saturn and Mars conjunct there. Hence, this Virgo conjunction will be controlled by Jupiter.

Lighting til oil diya facing West is good for Saturn.

Hanuman Chalisa is good in all cases.

Other people may give other interpretations.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby basab14 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:12 pm

Saindhavi ji,

Is Saturn exalted in transit in Libra good for Libra lagna people? I mean, its a malefic in lagna, so that way isn't it bad?
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:10 pm

That's what I used to think - it's good for the exalted Lagna, but it should create problems in the 7th and 10th houses.

But last year when Saturn was exalted for some time, I was assured by some people in this forum that it is good for the Libra Lagna people.

Well, I can tell you about it when it becomes exalted - I know some Libra Lagna people.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby basab14 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:02 am

Saindhavi ji,

Well, if it has given good time for Libra lagna people, then it must be so as feedback is a good way of finding out the effects of planets. About the aspect on 7th house and 10th house creating problems in regard to the significances of those houses, I can understand as malefic aspect won't be good.

Yeah, sure, would love to know how it works in case of Libra lagna people. One thing I would like to say, Rahu will join Saturn in December 2012, don't you think that would spoil the good results that Saturn exalted in the lagna may give?
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:41 am

No, Rahu is a friend of the Libra Lagna and Ketu is a friend of Aries.

This is one transit of Rahu that will be benefic for the Lagna it is in.

Rahu will enhance the exaltation power of Saturn for Libra Lagna.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby basab14 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:44 am

Oh, I didn't think that way, but what you are saying is true. I was thinking this way that two malefics would be in the ascendant of those who are born with Libra lagna, and so, it won't be good for them.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:48 am

No, Rahu-Ketu and Saturn will be good for those born with this combination. Saturn and Rahu will give good effect of the Lagna and Ketu of the 7th house.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby basab14 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:53 am

Oh, okay. Thank you for explaining, Saindhavi ji.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby skp23 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:06 am

I used to think that "gochar-transit effects" are seen from the moon i.e., rashi and less important from lagna.
For saturn even though exalted will be in different houses for all rashis based on their moon placement?

Can you please comment the difference of when do we make analysis with moon and when with lagna?

I am having kumbh lagna and vrishchik rashi. Based on moon sign, I have started with sade-sati except for small transit in virgo. Also, I am running ve-ve-ve dasha and Ve is my 4th & 9th house lord from lagna. Even though exalted, saturn is in my 12th house from moon, but shall I consider that it will be good for me since according to my lagna, exalted saturn is in my 9th house?
Please help me understand. Thanks.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:04 pm

This topic has been discussed here -

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12888

Let's stick to the topic of impact of Saturn-Mars conjunction in Virgo and Libra for various Lagnas and Rashis.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby prateak.desai » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:41 pm

Dear mam

For Libra Lagna, Saturn in 12th house in Virgo is bad and Libra Lagna people have been facing the adverse effect of 12th Saturn for some time
exactly right very tough time. also saturn 8th from moon for me. Is saturn in lagna and 9th from moon be moderate? details 18/5/1990,17:53, hubli,karnataka
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:09 am

Yes, it should be good after Mars leaves the Libra Lagna.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby skp23 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:24 am

Thanks for the link Saindhavi :)
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby rajath25 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:03 am

My intention to start this thread was to elicit views/opinions wrt the upcoming SA-MA conjunction in transit for ALL rashis/lagna and not just for Virgo and Libra lagna people.

I hope the esteemed astrologers will shed some light on the SA-MA conjunction in transit on other lagna/rashis.

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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:00 pm

I have written for 3 Lagnas.

Let's hope others will write for other Lagnas and Rashis and also about the 3 Lagnas I have written about.

PS - Around July 15th until 3rd of August, Saturn will be in Sandhi (transition zone) in Virgo when its powers will be much reduced though not completely lost.

Jupiter's aspect will also control both Saturn and Mars to a large extent.

Saturn in transition zone will not be good for the Virgo Lagna people, where it will be placed at this time. For Libra and Aries Lagna it should be good, Saturn being 12th and strong in 6th for them respectively. The power of Virgo-placed Mars will be increased during this period. This will further create problems for Virgo Lagna, but may be good for Libra and Aries Lagna, reducing the conflicts, expenditure and illnesses in their lives - at least I hope so.

On 4th of August Saturn moves into Libra, though till 19th of August it will be in Sandhi and hence, its powers will be much reduced. This will mean minimised effect of exalted Saturn for all 3 Lagnas as described above.

Mars will also be in Sandhi from 13th till 15th of August and both planets will give minimised effect during this period. 16th to 19th August, Saturn will be in Sandhi while Mars will come out of Sandhi. This will be a trying time for all 3 Lagnas discussed above.

From 20th of August, Saturn becomes exalted again, but will be conjunct with Mars. I have discussed it earlier.

As said earlier, Hanuman Chalisa and til oil diya facing West daily are good in all cases.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby ambisan » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:02 am

Hi All,
I can post feedback on how these days are. I am libra lagna and rashi.From june last week work become very tight. Wife left me alone (positive for child birth - but still a separation). Days are getting worse but some hope keeps running them. A negative outlook got set on things which were really promising. There was a huge spending on relatives, another in pipeline

Lastly had to start answering debtors, i am earning pretty much but dont know what happened.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:50 pm

Ambisan,

Saturn in 12th and Rahu malefic in 2nd are the cause behind your debts and separation from wife (though for a good cause).

Mars should decrease your troubles.

Tuesdays should be good for you. observe and come back to tell us.

Of course this will be modified by your Dasha combination and your chart.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby ambisan » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:26 am

Hi saindhaviji,
I have mars in my 12 th house , so thought it was not tat good for me
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby anushree44 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:14 pm

Hello Saindhavi.. Thanks for this link and your comments on the transit.
I would like to share MY EXPERIENCES: Im a libra lagna with moon conjunct ketu....mars n saturn in 2nd house scorpio in D1..Currently running jupiter MD-Moon AD.

Below are some details.. now can relate why this is currently so...

~affected by finances (quit job due to marriage in march)
~isolated and relocation away from home land and family since march end..
~ retirement and unemployment due to visa restrictions (no job till oct 2013)
~profound self-criticism and a feeling of intense loneliness sometimes.
~aggressiveness and short temper,mental stress and anxiety
~tensed about preparing for further studies,redrafting immediate goals/plans.
~arguments and situations worsened many a times due to speech
~communication with spouse is challenging..
~severe tooth problem started 23rd june,surgery in August 2012.
~Cleaning,organizing home,shuffles/adjustments,clearing out clutter at my hubbys home :D
~physical activity increased :-)(Suddenly doing vigorous excercises/gym)
~facing cruel cold attacks and ego disputes
~Dealing with irritability and frustration.
~problems with relationship with aggressive spouse.
~liberty/freedom curtailed in someway (married and no social network in this new place)

This has been the case with me so far changing my life drastically.
I hope its more learning and less harm in this entire period...!!

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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby anushree44 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:16 pm

I know the key is to be able to transcend--> "the physical-aggressive-confronting nature of Mars" & "the limiting-frustrating influence of Saturn".
but knowing,experiencing and doing are all different things!! :D :)
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby deeps » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:38 pm

Oh, I didn't think that way, but what you are saying is true. I was thinking this way that two malefics would be in the ascendant of those who are born with Libra lagna, and so, it won't be good for them.


Hi yellow,

only if the dasha running favaourable, then people can expect relief from any kind of worst transits.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:12 pm

Ambisan,

Mars in 12th is good for you. It controls the negative significations of 12h house.

The problem is your 12th Saturn in Gochar, conflicting with Mars. If Saturn is malefic in your chart, it further accentuates 12h Saturn's powers.

After 15th of July, when Saturn goes into Sandhi (Transition zone), situations may improve for you.
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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby Saindhavi » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:03 pm

Anushreeji,

First, congratulations on your marriage!

It's a big achievement on your part to get married despite having a malefic Saturn in 2nd and a malefic Rahu in 7th! :D

I guess Mars in 2nd in his own house helped you with marriage.

Yes, I remember those combinations of your chart. You'd told me once in PM.

Watch out for Jupiter-Rahu and Saturn Mahadasha.

About the experiences you have described, I feel the feelings of irritability, aggressive spouse, tensions, conflicts, relationship problems etc. are because of Saturn malefic in 2nd and Rahu malefic in 7th.

Loneliness, limited circle, career related problems etc. are because of Ketu in Lagna.

Ketu in Libra Lagna tends to isolate the native and will also block your career growth even if you have a powerful 10th house.

Tooth problems, financial problems etc. are because of Saturn malefic in 2nd house.

Anxiety, depression etc are because of Moon conjunct with Ketu.

Current transit of Virgo Saturn 12th for Libra Lagna and Rahu malefic in 2nd are accentuating the combinations in your Lagna chart. This will gradually increase with time if you don't watch out.

Ketu works silently and gradually increases its powers. Rahu works to help Ketu achieve its aims.

I don't know where your Jupiter and Lagna lord Venus are.

You had told me you were following some remedies. Based on the above combinations, following are what I suggest -

For Ketu -

Tie Ashwagandha roots in a thin gauze-like cloth around upper arm. It's an Ayurvedic herb and addresses of shops selling them can be found online.

However, if your husband has a benefic Ketu (in friendly or exalted sign) in his 2nd, 7th or 9th house, then Ashwagandha may not work for you, creating more problems in marriage.

Recite Ganesha Aharvashirsha daily, offering red flowers to Ganesha. You can do this regardless of your husband's Ketu's position.

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Wear a necklace of white sandalwood beads. You can get it in karnataka Emporium outlets, or online from reliable websites. Some ISKCON centres also sell them online.

Recite any hymn for Saraswati, Mahamrityunjaya Mantra 108 times daily, Durga Suktam 21 times daily lighting a big ghee or refined oil diya, followed by Devi Suktam from Rig Veda. Recite all of them.

Moon -

Lakshmi Nrisimha Karavalambam followed by Sri Suktam from Rig Veda.

Offer lotus to Goddess Lakshmi whenever possible.

Saturn-Mars conjunction in 2nd house -

Hanuman Chalisa, light til oil diya facing West daily, Dasharath Shani Stotram.

I found all these remedies after I wrote to you. Hence, am sharing them with you here.

PS - We'd be much obliged if you could write about your Rahu Mahadasha and remedies on Explorings' thread here -

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Re: Saturn-Mars transit in Virgo and libra

Postby basab14 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:38 am

Deeps,

I am Libra lagna so wanted to know about it. You are right, if the dasha is good, the transits won't be harmful. The interesting thing is, I underwent severe stress when Saturn was in Libra, and it eased up when it went back to Virgo. Saturn in Libra has not been good for me, in spite of everyone saying, it should be good for Libra ascendant. I think because it is 4th from my Moon, it has been a difficult transit for me, while in Virgo it is in the 3rd from Moon, which is a good transit for Saturn.

deeps wrote:
Oh, I didn't think that way, but what you are saying is true. I was thinking this way that two malefics would be in the ascendant of those who are born with Libra lagna, and so, it won't be good for them.


Hi yellow,

only if the dasha running favaourable, then people can expect relief from any kind of worst transits.
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