2 miscarriges - when will I be able to bear a child?

[shubhal]

Dear friends, I come to you in a time of great distress. I have lost 2 babies. Details are as below:

1st miscarriage

Unexpected heavy bleeding on 13th May 2011 when I was 7 weeks and 3 days pregnant. Only the previous day, the ultrasound had shown a good formation. No real cause located. Termed as a random event. My uterus is bicornuate (heart shaped) - but the baby was too small at this time to be affected by that.

I had my D&C on 27th May after much harassment from money hungry doctors.

2nd miscarriage

Ultrasound on 14th november 2011 showed a healthy heartbeat. Next ultrasound on 30th Nov at 11 and 1/2 weeks pregnancy showed a formation defect called aminiotic band syndrome. something rare and randon. Again, no reason in particular why this happens. Definitely not related to my bicornuate uterus. I had my D&C on 7th Dec.

I was married on the 6th March 2011

My details
DoB 18 May 1981
Time 11:05 am
Place Patna, Bihar, India

Husband
DoB 18 Nov 1981
Time 06:15 pm
Place Delhi, India

The second pregnancy I chanted santan gopal mantra every day. I took leave from office. All to no avail.

Now I have decided I will stop working until I get this right. I am staying at my maternal home to prepare for my next pregnancy mentally and physically. Please let me know by when can my husband and I expect a child.

[Shrikanth]

Dear Shubhal,

I reviewed your charts.
In your Rasi chart - Cancer Ascendant with 5th house aspected by Rahu and Mars. Mars aspect is good in this case due to his lordship of the 5th - but Rahu aspect is unwelcome.
Jupiter as the karaka for children is placed in his marana karaka sthana with close conjunction of Saturn.

I fail to see any negative or red flags in Navamsa in your chart.
In Saptamsa - Cancer Ascendant with Moon eclipsed by Rahu in close conjunction and aspected by Ketu-Mars.
Here Moon is quite afflicted due to the malefic aspects.
Moon in Saptamsa especially in a womens chart would indicate aspects of fertility, conception and strength of early pregnancy. Here we notice its in some affliction.

You were married in Merc/Merc/Sun period - makes perfect sense since Merc is in the 7th in Navamsa and Sun is 7th lord in Navamsa lagna. This also signals the fact that Merc is a spent force atleast during his Mahadasa and Antardasa.

Jupiter as the pakesha who owns the Pisces which will give you the first child is with Merc - and you've experienced two miscarriages is quite unfortunate. So in this light - I'll recommend that you let the Merc/Merc period pass by until Aug 2012.

Merc/Ketu starts thereafter and by his aspect on Pisces should indicate some hopes of a better prospects in conception & pregnancy.

I'd say that the best prospect in some progress on this should be around Nov 04, 2012 timeframe.
You can use the better part of 1 yr to recuperate both physically and mentally and try again next year.

Jupiter is quite strong in the D7 chart so that renders some fundamental strength to your case. Just the current timing is not quite good.

Hope this helps.

With best wishes
Shrikanth

[shubhal]

Many thanks Shrikanth ji.

I was having a look at an earlier post by akm this morning at

phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=8573&p=56502&hilit=arudha+pada+AS3#p56502

related to A3/A9 damaged and AS3/AS9 damaged due to having sun in 2nd, 8th, 6th or 12th and presence of Venus and Mercury.

Seems my S3 is damaged due to sun in 8th; S9 is damaged due to Venus and Mercury presence. Also, A9 is damaged due to sun in 8th.

According to the post, "The method of Deha given by Maharishi Jaimini in Upadesha Sutra is infallible in predicting the fertility or procreative ability of the native."

I have read this many other places as well. Requesting your comments on this please.

[astroboy]

Good day to you Shrikanth ji,

I was suprised to see that you use the 5th and 9th aspect for Rahu and Ketu. On deeper analysis I think you are on the right track for one simple reason.

Having found no major afflictions to the 5th house in the Rashi chart, My attention was drawn to Rahu's role in this drama. Not only does Rahu aspect the 5th house in the Rashi chart, He also aspects the 5th house in the D7. More importantly, he is with the D7 Lagna lord Chandra in the 9th.

Why I say you are on the right track is because, Rahu is in Mrityu Bhaga and within a fateful Trimshamsha degree. P.V.N.R. ji proposes that the 19-20th degree rule / option should be applied for planets when we judge Mrityu Bhaga. In this case even that dictum is re- enforced.

Thanks and best regards,

Planet : Rahu
From Mrityu Bhaga Center : 0.1533 deg
Within the Trimsamsa (degree) - Yes

[Shrikanth]

Dear astroboy,

Thanks for your illuminating feedback on this chart.

Yes I use a 2nd, 5th and 9th house aspect for case of Rahu - but not for Ketu.

I have seen the Mrityu Bhaga options etc., - but unfortunately I'm not knowledgeable about its usage.
We'll all be very grateful to you - if you could write a small post detailing about the Mrityu Bhaga and the Trimshamsa degree closeness etc.,

Thanks again
Shrikanth

[anuradha]

Dear friends, I come to you in a time of great distress. I have lost 2 babies. Details are as below:

1st miscarriage

Unexpected heavy bleeding on 13th May 2011 when I was 7 weeks and 3 days pregnant. Only the previous day, the ultrasound had shown a good formation. No real cause located. Termed as a random event. My uterus is bicornuate (heart shaped) - but the baby was too small at this time to be affected by that.

I had my D&C on 27th May after much harassment from money hungry doctors.

2nd miscarriage

Ultrasound on 14th november 2011 showed a healthy heartbeat. Next ultrasound on 30th Nov at 11 and 1/2 weeks pregnancy showed a formation defect called aminiotic band syndrome. something rare and randon. Again, no reason in particular why this happens. Definitely not related to my bicornuate uterus. I had my D&C on 7th Dec.

I was married on the 6th March 2011

Shubhakji, Your chart is analysed by very esteemed astrologers of the forum, my feeling is Rahu in Lagna has a role since any planet in Lagna will affect the whole body but aspect of Mars is controlling the Rahu. Aspect of Mercury[ 12L], Saturn[8L], 11L Venus[ 6th from 6th] , Sun[ 2L] on 5H is creating the problem and Karka Jupiter is not only retrograde but also with 8L, not good at all. In Saptamsha also 5H is aspected by Saturn[ 8L] and 5L Mars is with Ketu. Sun the 2L is again in 5H.But the Mars 5L, is very well placed and pure, under the aspect of Moon and Jupiter. The present dasha of Mercury[ 12L, Eunuch] is also not helping. In all the charts D-1, D-9, D-7, Moon and Mars are at 1-7 axis, gives the clue . Moon the uterus has problem due to Rahu[ any thing in our body in a shape of snake], due to it , shape is bicornuate. Mars is indicating that doctors may suggest some surgical intervention. At present,in transit Rahu is also in your 5H and Ketu is transiting on the Dasha lord Mercury, making the situation, not diagnosed properly.Mercury- Ketu- Moon will start on october 30, 2012, will be the time for conception, Jupiter will be in Taurus aspecting your 5H, Saturn will aspect the 5L and 5L will be in 5H. Since Rahu is creating the trouble, do Nav- Nag -Strota with Hanuman Chalisa daily. Regards

[astroboy]

Good day Shrikanth Ji,

I have just started writing about Mrityu bhaga here : -
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=12100

I shall put up more horoscopes as the days go by. Hope you find this helpful.

There is another example of how Mrityu Bhaga has affect a persons life. You can read about it here :-
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=12845

Its in the post - 3 planets exalted.

Trust this helps,

Best regards,

[StellarAstrologer]

Hello Shubhal
Here is 2 cents on the matter.
1. No doubt, marriage has taken place under controversial circumstances, as your husband's chart indicates this. Could be a love marriage as per husband's chart.
2. Husband chart:
Getting taurus lagna, sun dasha running. severely afflicted 5th lord. navamsa has mars in fifth, afflicted by 8th Lord sani. saptamsa lagna is afflicted by 6,8,12 clearly. all three charts has major afflictions. sun dasa not conducive for putra labha (children)
3. Wife/ Your chart:
Getting karkataka lagna with fifth lord mars in own house of aries. rasi chart -5th afflicted by 8th lord sani. fifth aspected by maraka sun, 12th lord mercury. dasa lord mercury is mrigasira suggesting the area of concern for you as children. 5th lord of rasi is fine in navamsa but 5th lord mercury of navamsa is slightly afflicted. saptamsa chart - fifth in 9th is great but afflicted by sani 8th lord (also exchange).
Overall husband's chart is worrisome for children. your chart shows some afflictions, but some redeeming features. From Jaimini angle. putrakaraka is afflicted by gnati karaka (jupiter) both being in gemini. From mantra pada, fifth lord sani ok/fine. From KP astrology, mercury is the ruler of your fifth house cusp and is a bad planet for karkataka lagna afflicting fifth. mercury is a strong significator of 10 and 12 (both houses, not great for getting children). next bhukti lord ketu is a strong significator of 1,4,6 again not very good for children.

Overall more red flags in your husband's chart. your case mercury dasa lord is waving a yellow card, your husband's case sun dasa is a red flag. Next year's jupiter transit is the best hope (after may 2012 till may/june 2013), as it can thwart many evils. Overall: your husband's chart shows almost a denial (moon dasha is better), but in your chart there is some hope. Good luck.

M.S.Sharma
PS: I do not take Rahu aspects as some other astrologers do. I do not think, rahu is an issue in your chart at all.

[anuradha]

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M.S.Sharma
PS: I do not take Rahu aspects as some other astrologers do. I do not think, rahu is an issue in your chart at all.[/quote
Sharmaji, Even if you do not take the asecpect of Rahu, Rahu is in Cancer in Lagna, aspecting the 5H[ Scorpio] from Jaimini angle , so the 5H is under the influence of Rahu.

1st miscarriage

Unexpected heavy bleeding on 13th May 2011 when I was 7 weeks and 3 days pregnant. Only the previous day, the ultrasound had shown a good formation. No real cause located. Termed as a random event. My uterus is bicornuate (heart shaped) - but the baby was too small at this time to be affected by that.

I had my D&C on 27th May after much harassment from money hungry doctors.

2nd miscarriage

Ultrasound on 14th november 2011 showed a healthy heartbeat. Next ultrasound on 30th Nov at 11 and 1/2 weeks pregnancy showed a formation defect called aminiotic band syndrome. something rare and randon. Again, no reason in particular why this happens. Definitely not related to my bicornuate uterus. I had my D&C on 7th Dec.

This above information is suggesting , where is the problem. If husband has a problem there would be no conception.

2. Husband chart:
Getting taurus lagna, sun dasha running. severely afflicted 5th lord

Husband's 5L is misplaced a bit in 6H, with 8L and 11L, but with the most benefice Jupiter, without any aspect or association of malefic. Jupiter as 8L in exchange with 6L Venus. Both Venus and Jupiter are pure, without any malefic aspect or association. In D-7, 5L Mercury is in Lagna aspecting by LL Saturn and 6L Moon. Aspect of Rahu is a controversial subject , some classical supports it and some do not. But it does not mean that you conclude that Rahu has no role. Regards

[StellarAstrologer]

Madam,
I know rahu aspects fifth using jaimini angle. It is only a mild affliction and not the cause of the problem. I read the original email and I clearly know the problem. What interested me the karkataka lagna chart. My BIL's wife went through 9 mis-carriages and both have same lagna (karkataka) and fifth lord is exalted in 7th house. At 42 and 41 there are still childless (they adapted a girl 8 yrs back).

Husbands chart is vrishabha lagna with worst malefic Jupiter controlling mercury (5L) and sun. It does not matter if there is an exchange or Jupiter is a natural benefic. I give more importance to lordship. Take a look at A1 and A5 and see the condition of Sun. Sun is gnati karaka in jaimini (I do only 7 karakas and not 8 as others do). See running chara dasa of Dhanu and sun goes to 12th. If you know KP astrology. See 5th lord house cusp Sun and its sublord, see mercury nakshatra swami and sub lord. All this suggests to me that his chart is more problematic than hers. It takes two to tango. In many childless couples - it is the past karma (luck, chance or call it what ever) that brought them together to go through karma phala.

My opinion (we may agree to disagree and move on).

I don't believe in rahu aspects (shadowy planet), this theory of MKS, 8 karakas. Most of the time it does not work. Take a look at GW Bush's chart and see how many planets are in MKS and nothing happened. Jupiter is in third H in worst place?? No way. His father was another president, he has had multiple younger siblings.. There is a big difference between text book astrology and practical experience .I arrive at a composite sketch using Jaimini, arudha pada, parashari (with rasi , nakshatra, navamsa and d chart as needed), KP astrology, transits, running dasha to make a call.

In this case husband's chart shows more affliction when it comes to seeing progeny matters (another hint: see his 11th house cusp lord). It does not matter if you agree or not. I do not consider astrology as a science. Upto the point of casting the chart and making calculations, it is math. After this point people (astrologers) differ in the way they interpret, the way they predict. It involves, experience, practical intuition, prayer, spiritual strength, knowledge of various systems.

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M.S.Sharma
PS: I do not take Rahu aspects as some other astrologers do. I do not think, rahu is an issue in your chart at all.[/quote
Sharmaji, Even if you do not take the asecpect of Rahu, Rahu is in Cancer in Lagna, aspecting the 5H[ Scorpio] from Jaimini angle , so the 5H is under the influence of Rahu.

1st miscarriage

Unexpected heavy bleeding on 13th May 2011 when I was 7 weeks and 3 days pregnant. Only the previous day, the ultrasound had shown a good formation. No real cause located. Termed as a random event. My uterus is bicornuate (heart shaped) - but the baby was too small at this time to be affected by that.

I had my D&C on 27th May after much harassment from money hungry doctors.

2nd miscarriage

Ultrasound on 14th november 2011 showed a healthy heartbeat. Next ultrasound on 30th Nov at 11 and 1/2 weeks pregnancy showed a formation defect called aminiotic band syndrome. something rare and randon. Again, no reason in particular why this happens. Definitely not related to my bicornuate uterus. I had my D&C on 7th Dec.

This above information is suggesting , where is the problem. If husband has a problem there would be no conception.

2. Husband chart:
Getting taurus lagna, sun dasha running. severely afflicted 5th lord

Husband's 5L is misplaced a bit in 6H, with 8L and 11L, but with the most benefice Jupiter, without any aspect or association of malefic. Jupiter as 8L in exchange with 6L Venus. Both Venus and Jupiter are pure, without any malefic aspect or association. In D-7, 5L Mercury is in Lagna aspecting by LL Saturn and 6L Moon. Aspect of Rahu is a controversial subject , some classical supports it and some do not. But it does not mean that you conclude that Rahu has no role. Regards

[jemsmiles]

Hi,
I am not giving any astrological remedy here.

This is my personal experience and my guruji asked me to give you this remedy.

Please pray to lord shiva and observe monday fasting.
Also do abhisheka on shiva linga, be careful do not touch shiva linga while doing abhisheka.

You can do abhishek with water, milk, curd etc.
Have utmost faith and love when you do all this, do not do this for the sack of doing .

If your prayers are from the bottom of your heart than shiva will listen to you and you will be blessed with a child.

[shubhal]

Dear esteemed friends,

Many thanks for the support that your knowledge had provided.
(Sidenote - a new spring in my step today. After a period of much depression, I am looking at the future with positivity. I have a feeling things will be good and God will give me what I want. i will plan my pregnancy as indicated by your analysis this time.)

Need one final input on gemstones -

Your views on my wearing a pearl and red coral. I am already wearing a yellow sapphire.
Your views on my husband wearing a green emerald.

Kindly let me know.

My Best