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Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby bali1938 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:02 am

In a known chart there is a peculiar situation involving debilitation, vargottama, retrograde - all 3 w.r.t JUPITER for Libra lagna.

i.e Jupiter(Retrograde) is in 4th in Rasi for Libra Lagna (Capricorn) and is in Navamsa Lagna (Capricorn).

Jupiter is debilitated in various other divisional charts thus having 0 Vaiseshikamsas; Shadbala - 114%; Vimsopaka Bala - 10.73. Adding to his mix it has an Ashtakavarga bala of 7!!!

Now, what is the strength of Jupiter in this case? Does it mean that Jupiter being Retro is struggling to come out of its neecha position but being debilitated in navamsa will fail repeatedly in its efforts?

I would appreciate if learned members can help me clear my doubt.

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Re: Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby anuradha » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:22 am

Sir, Since it is vargottam, it is between 0 degrees to 3degrees 20 minutes,being vargottam it has improved, retrograde means going backward, in own house means again gaining the strength being in own house.Nadi grantha says a retrograde planet gives the result from the previous house.Ashtak varga and shadvard are showing its strength.But going towards the third house is a weakness. By looking into all the factors , it has a strength but with reduced karkatwa[ signification].Regards
हर मित्रता के पीछे कोई ना कोई स्वार्थ होता है.ऐसी कोई मित्रता नहीं जिसमे स्वार्थ ना हो. यह कड़वा सच है.


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Re: Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby bali1938 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:41 pm

Thanks Anuradha. Just one more question:

When you mean Karakatwa is reduced - Jupiter as significator for 2nd,5th,9th,11th houses does not have much strength. But as lord of 3rd and 6th houses in the chart Jupiter is strong?
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Re: Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby anuradha » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:24 am

Sir, It is bit reduced and also ,idealism is also reduced. regards
हर मित्रता के पीछे कोई ना कोई स्वार्थ होता है.ऐसी कोई मित्रता नहीं जिसमे स्वार्थ ना हो. यह कड़वा सच है.


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Re: Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby Sunds » Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:48 am

Hi Anuradhaji,
I have Saturn which is Debilitated and Retro and Vargottam....I am also currently running Saturn dasa....Any feedback???Also it is placed in the tenth house....
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DOB:06/Sept/1968
Time:3:40 AM
Place: Chennai
Please go through my horoscope....Thanks in advance.....
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Re: Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby anuradha » Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:12 pm

Dear, What is the problem? anu
हर मित्रता के पीछे कोई ना कोई स्वार्थ होता है.ऐसी कोई मित्रता नहीं जिसमे स्वार्थ ना हो. यह कड़वा सच है.


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Re: Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby map » Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:50 pm

Sunds ji,

r u connected with software for fine arts / software for accounts?
This saturn will make you interested in philosophy and astrology.
Currently it may be creating some issues in job front. May be that u r even thinking to leave the job.

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Re: Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby Sunds » Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:23 pm

Hi Map,
I am no Software programmer but I am very good in Web-Designing and other internet activities....

map wrote:This saturn will make you interested in philosophy and astrology.

Well...I was always interested in astrology but this dasa has made me very very spiritual....

map wrote:Currently it may be creating some issues in job front. May be that u r even thinking to leave the job.

I am without a regular job from june-2004 itself...that was the beginning of Saturn dasa-Mercury Bhukti...I tried my luck with few businesses but unfortunately over there also I had to incur some loss....Before that I was a Sales Manager in a MNC drawing Rs.50000/month....I guess all this is because of debilitated Saturn in tenth....It has also created problems in marriage-Saturn being the seventh lord.....But I read somewhere that a debilitated planet which is vakri gives an exalted effect....Is it true??? I seriously hope that it is true....But that is just wishful thinking......In my case saturn is also vargottam.....Historically I have seen that I have done well in sun/moon bhuktis.....Now the Sun Bhukti starts from June-2011....so I hope it will help....
Any feedback???
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Re: Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby anuradha » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:50 pm

Dear, Just wail for four months things will improve. Recite Hanuman Chalisa daily, avoid non veg and alcohol. regards
हर मित्रता के पीछे कोई ना कोई स्वार्थ होता है.ऐसी कोई मित्रता नहीं जिसमे स्वार्थ ना हो. यह कड़वा सच है.


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Re: Debilitated Retro Planet but Vargottama

Postby map » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:57 pm

Sunds Sir,

I think it will be so so till oct 2011. After that (only IMO) it is going to be really challenging.

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