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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby explorings » Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:26 pm

Chandra Lagna: Thanks for sharing. Below is the configuration for that class of yogas.

If all the 7 Planets are in the 4 Houses, following yogas are applicable.

Yup Yoga:
All planets located in houses 1 to 4.

Effects: Native is:
- engaged in sacrificial rituals
- blessed with home comforts
- valorous
pursues his worldly duties


Shara Yoga:
All planets located in houses 4 to 7.

Effects: Native is:
- earning of wealth through movement away from home.
- involved in making arrows
- cruel, hunter, jailor



Shakti Yoga:
All planets located in houses 7 to 10.

Effects: Native is:
- Intelligent esp. in arguments and debates
- good-looking yet poor, wicked, lazy, and tormented by failures
- little marital happiness



Danda Yoga:
All planets located in houses 10 to 1.

Effects: Native is:
- unkind, grieved, poor, discarded by all, and a servant
- adverse yoga for material possessions and comforts
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby anuradha » Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:19 pm

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I tried really hard to resist commenting anything about Bhaskar Yoga (BY) after the initial post but in vain. I feel that if one believes that yogas are not to be taken literally then they should not be considered sooo liberally either. Anuji has already explained the reasons/effects of this planetary placement... so to get that effect, in this case, BY should be considered literally and the strength of the planets should also be considered.

I feel that AB's example is more apt for Bhaskar Yoga than the other examples provided. In AB's example, mercury though retro is placed in own house (also the house of exaltation), jupiter though retro is placed in own house and so is moon. All three planets are in strength. So BY applies.

For other examples, here is my viewpoint:
1. 13-05-1996, 20-00, Delhi.
- Ju is not in 5th or 9th to the moon. Even though it is retro here, its actual placement is in 10th to the moon. It will give its effect from the previous house, but BY does not apply here.

2. Tiger Woods, 30-12-1975,22.50, U.S.A, California, Long Beach.
- Although the placement of the planet is applicable to BY. Moon is debilitated and not in strength. IMO, effects of BY will be diminished here.

3. Steve Job's Chart
BY yoga is not applicable.
- Steve Job's success is because of other planetary configurations.

4. Ashish Nehra
BY does not apply.
- His success and fearless and wealthy attitude is because of other planetary configurations.

5. Serena Williams
BY does not apply. Ju is not 5th or 9th to the moon.
- Her success is defined by other planetary configurations not to mention that the debilitated LL Mars is conjunct with rahu in kendra, which in itself is a Raj Yoga. Lagnesha Mars with Rahu is an excellent combination for sportsman.

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby prateak.desai » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:16 pm

Dear mam
The Author of JHora software also has Bhaskar Yoga. They discussed that in one of their class.
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby astroboy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:18 am

The horoscope of the God of Jyotishya. He is the only one who actually saved Jyotishya. I was waiting to see who will bring his horoscope up. Pratreak Desai, May God bless you. You are the best.

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby navall » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:11 am

Dear Astroboy ji,

I have one doubt regarding this.

Isn't Sun is in more Papakartari than Shubhakartari as it should be to exhibit the full attributes of this yoga.

As Mer and moon are weak as compared to Rahu and saturn on either side of sun.
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby astroboy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:07 am

by navall » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:41 pm
Dear Astroboy ji,
I have one doubt regarding this.
Isn't Sun is in more Papakartari than Shubhakartari as it should be to exhibit the full attributes of this yoga.
As Mer and moon are weak as compared to Rahu and saturn on either side of sun.


My dear navall, you must first understand that, In the case of Guru P.V.N.Rao Ji's chart, it is Chandra and Budha that are involved in the Papakartari Yoga. Chandra is @ 28 Degrees in Kumbha, and Budha is at 3 Degrees In Mesha.

Bhaskara Yoga's main component is that Chandra be in the 11th from Budha, and Budha be in the 2nd from Chandra. That means Chandra has to be in the 12th from Ravi.

It is not me, But Anuradha who decided that in a Bhaskara Yoga, The sun always falls in a Shubha Kartari yoga. She, in her quest to try and get one over me, has forgotten the basics of Jyotishya.

We all know that when Budha is with a Malefic, Budha becomes a Malefic
It is also a well established dictum that when the Moon is waning and is associated with a malefic, there is nothing much you can expect from Chandra.

I don't think she even paused to read my first post on Bhaskara yoga properly. She just rushed in, Gave her own reasons for how the yoga works, without pausing to think what the repercussions of her actions would be.

In my opinion, The Papakartari yoga does not count as far as the Bhaskara Yoga is concerned. All other factors being equal. There must be some element in this combination that sets aside many afflictions. What they are, only the sages who proposed the sloka should know.
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby navall » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:34 am

Dear Astroboy ji.,


Why i asked abt papakartari..becoz
it is well known fact that whenever a yoga is formed with weak planets and associated with great malefics like rahu and saturn..it reduces it strength considerably..thats why i asked wud this yoga in respected PVR Sir's chart atribute its full features.
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby krishnagopal1968 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:36 am

The horoscope of the God of Jyotishya. He is the only one who actually saved Jyotishya.

I fully agree!

Neither BVR,KNR,CS patel,iyer,santanam, nor Marc boney,Vaughn paul did anything to save jyotisha because they didn't create a free software Jhora nor had bhaskara yoga :lol:

I wonder why the founder of this forum Vaughn Paul ji had gone for a lengthy interview with KNR last year instead of God of Jyotisha PVR!
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby prateak.desai » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:42 am

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby navall » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:46 am

I feel myself very lucky to have my chart analysed by the God of Jyotishya Sir PVR Rao ji on my health issues., i will post the same on this forum for the benefit of learners.
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby astroboy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:08 am

by krishnagopal1968 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:06 pm

The horoscope of the God of Jyotishya. He is the only one who actually saved Jyotishya.


I fully agree!

Neither BVR,KNR,CS patel,iyer,santanam, nor Marc boney,Vaughn paul did anything to save jyotisha because they didn't create a free software Jhora nor had bhaskara yoga :lol:


there is no need to get sarcastic. You still have J hora on your computer right. delete it, pay some money, buy another software, then talk.
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby astroboy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:13 am

by krishnagopal1968 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:06 pm
I wonder why the founder of this forum Vaughn Paul ji had gone for a lengthy interview with KNR last year instead of God of Jyotisha PVR!

Ask him
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby swamykool » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:29 am

Swamykool ji, cud u pls guide me thru the link for double transit on this forum or anywhere, i hav been searching for it.


Dear navall,

There is no post on double transit anywhere on the forum. At least I have not seen it.

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby navall » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:10 am

Swamykool ji,

So ,from where can i read about this.?

Do u have any idea..?
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby swamykool » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:17 am

navall,

Best way to know about this is to read the book - Finer Techniques of Astrological Predictions, Vol-1 by K.N.Rao

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby anuradha » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:29 am

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navall,

Best way to know about this is to read the book - Finer Techniques of Astrological Predictions, Vol-1 by K.N.Rao

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Coolji, But :lol: Sholakas are missing in both the volumes. regards
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby navall » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:09 am

Thanx Swamykool ji.
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby swamykool » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:42 am

Coolji, But Sholakas are missing in both the volumes. regards


Anu ji,

I don't need to convince anybody, neither do I care to. I just need to get my predictions correct and accurate. The techniques given in that book works, thats all I care for. And K.N.Rao himself is a sanskrit scholar, I trust his judgement.

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby krishnagopal1968 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:12 am

Dear Navall,

for ur ref...

full article cannot be posted due to space, pl go to article section in this forum.

The Double Transit Phenomenon
of Jupiter and Saturn

By Vaughn Paul Manley, M.A.
Copyright 2010. All Rights Reserved.

When learning Vedic astrology, as with any discipline, it's important to apply the principles you learn with many practical examples. This article presents a very useful and reliable chart interpretation method, involving the transits of Jupiter and Saturn, which you can immediately apply to any chart you're studying. By so doing, you will see its efficacy first hand.

Following the Transits of Jupiter and Saturn
Since Jupiter and Saturn are the slowest moving planets in Vedic astrology, their transits will tend to have the most significance for predictive purposes. Jupiter transits through a sign approximately once per year, while Saturn takes approximately 2 ½ years.

We generally think of Jupiter’s transits as positive and beneficial, causing expansion, growth, new opportunities and increasing the significations of any house that it transits or aspects. Likewise, we generally think of Saturn’s transits as negative and detrimental, causing limitation, obstacles, challenges and the denial of the significations of any house that it transits or aspects. However, while Saturn’s transit can give negative outcomes under certain circumstances, this is certainly not always the case.

My jyotish guru, K.N. Rao, says in his book, Ups and Downs in Career, “When anything significant is happening to any man, Jupiter and Saturn in transit play a pivotal role.” How can this be true, if Saturn’s transits are not also, somehow, beneficial?

Jupiter can be said to give the inspiration behind an endeavor, while Saturn gives it its structure and form. Without Saturn’s influence nothing of lasting value could ever be actualized. Jupiter gives new, expansive ideas but not necessarily the ability to manifest them. Therefore, we need both for an idea to come into full manifestation.

The best way that I've found to illustrate this principle is to think of a tree. Saturn is the roots and trunk of the tree, while Jupiter is it's leaves and branches. Jupiter aspires to the heavens with new growth while Saturn establishes a firm foundation. Both are obviously dependent on one another for any significant and sustained growth to happen.

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Examples of the Double Transit
In the following example we see the double transit in the sign of Pisces, which occurred between July 24th, 2002 and July 30th, 2003. Saturn was transiting Gemini and aspecting Leo, Sagittarius, and Pisces. Jupiter was transiting Cancer and aspecting Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces. Therefore, the only sign that received the aspect of both planets was Pisces. (However, between January 9th and April 8th, 2003 Saturn went retrograde back into Taurus, thereby shifting the double transit to the signs of Cancer and Scorpio.)

Whatever house Pisces represents for each rising sign will determine how the double transit will affect the chart. For instance, for Gemini Ascendant Pisces is the 10th house. The double transit will, therefore, indicate potential expansion and actualization of career achievements.



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Applying the Double Transit
Besides considering the dashas and yogas as previously mentioned, it's also important to see the relative strengths of Jupiter and Saturn in your natal chart. This can be done by seeing their sign and house placement, their house rulership, as well as the planets that aspect them. This will modify the relative strength of their transits.

Also, look to see which house(s), if any, are also doubly aspected by Jupiter and Saturn in the natal chart. This house will gain prominence throughout their life. Also, when the double transit aspects to this house expect intensified results. Lastly, if you know the ashtakavarga point system examine how many points Jupiter and Saturn’s points are both in the natal chart and in their transiting sign. If they are higher than 5 points then their results will be more beneficial. If they are less than 2 points then their results will be less beneficial. All these factors will modify the relative strength of the double transit.



you can also find 2 more articles on double transit phenomenon in this section
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby Hina » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:35 pm

Anuradhaji,

But not good in Mathematics since no connection between Mercury and Jupiter


you wrote that a connection between merc & jupiter is required for a person to be good in math. what other conditions will make a person good in math?

I have horoscope of a person who is excellent in math. Makes his living by math modeling. He is like #1 in India in 10th boards. There is no connection between merc & jupiter. no aspects between each other, not in each other's house, not in each other's nakshatra or anything. However, they are both in friend's house. Jupiter is in 9th house. Merc & jupiter both aspect 5th house.

So, what else does a person make good in math?

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby anuradha » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:39 pm

Anu ji,

I don't need to convince anybody, neither do I care to. I just need to get my predictions correct and accurate. The techniques given in that book works, thats all I care for. And K.N.Rao himself is a sanskrit scholar, I trust his judgement.

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby anuradha » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:47 pm


you can also find 2 more articles on double transit phenomenon in this section
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Re: Some Rare Yogas
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Anuradhaji,

But not good in Mathematics since no connection between Mercury and Jupiter


you wrote that a connection between merc & jupiter is required for a person to be good in math. what other conditions will make a person good in math?

I have horoscope of a person who is excellent in math. Makes his living by math modeling. He is like #1 in India in 10th boards. There is no connection between merc & jupiter. no aspects between each other, not in each other's house, not in each other's nakshatra or anything. However, they are both in friend's house. Jupiter is in 9th house. Merc & jupiter both aspect 5th house.

So, what else does a person make good in math?

Thanks!

See the placement of Sun, Mars[ Logic] and Mercury[ intelligence] to understand the potential to learn Mathematics . Ketu in 5H, Jupiter in 12H, Sun and Mercury combination in 2H , 5H or 9H along with Strong 5L is must. Jupiter and Mercury combination also give Mathematics. Kindly post the details for better understanding. regards
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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby Hina » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:05 pm

Sk,

here is the quote about mars aspect making the person coward. I have found this to be true in reality.


1) Chp 3 Prakirna Tatva, First House, Verse 84 (Page 41)
स्वर्क्षगे भौमद्दष्टेऽङ्गे कातराः।
When the ascendant is aspected by Mars posited in his own sign, the native will be a coward.

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby swamykool » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:21 pm

Hina,

Can you please write the sanskrit in roman alphabets, I think the author has made a spelling mistake in devnagari or you have made a mistake in copying. The meaning is not coming out correctly.

Actually never checked for this before. If this is the case, only the following Lgs will be affected - Can, Lib, Sco, Aq, Tau and Gem.

However I am not very convinced that this will work correctly. Pl check that the chart you mentioned, whether is has its 3rd H or 3rd L afflicted by benefics.

Regarding mathematics:

Actually 3 planets play a role. Mars, Mercury and Ketu. Mars and Mer should be at angles to ketu or conjunct (trines don't work well) and mars and ketu must not be in Jala rashis. It is better if all 3 of these are in agni agni rashis or vayu rashis. Also, it is better for ketu to be alone.

The above combination will give very high mathematical ability.

Now comes the point that Anu ji has put up. Favourable combination between Mer and Jup. Mercury is the karak for formal education (vidya) and Jupi is the karak for Overall knowledge and wisdom (Jnana). If these two are well connected it will mean that the person will pursue and attain a high academic degree in maths, like MSc Maths or PhD or some such.

But the first combination needs to be present to begin with. That is the one that gives mathematical ability.

If these two are in inimical relations or angles, the person might be brilliant in maths but will not have high academic degrees. Formal education and accredition will suffer.

Come to think of it, in whose charts do we mainly look for achievement in maths?? Mathamaticians, physicists, Finance professionals, engineering designers, etc. All of them have the degrees, so all of them have the good angle between Mer and Jupi.

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Re: Some Rare Yogas

Postby swamykool » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:57 pm

The Nks must also be noted.
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