Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

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Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

Post by shilpa » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:11 pm

In our Vedic astrology system anaolgies of the male sperm and female ovaies have been defined that can be placed as longitudnal points in the chart.
and then the influence of various benefic/ malefic etc can bee seen to test the potency of the astrological equivalent of sperm and the fertility of the astrological equivalent of ovary.

This is how it works:

1) The Beeja Sphutha is literally the male seed ( call it the astrological equivalent of sperms)

2) The Kshetra sphutha is literally the ground for sowing the seed ( the astrological equivalent of ovaries)

3) If the ground is barren, the strongest of seeds will struggle to nurture into a life form.
If the seeds are weak.....they will struggle to nurture in the most fertile grounds.

4) Beeja is calculated for MALES by adding the longitudes ( absolute with signs and w.r.t Aries house-1) of Sun+Jupiter+Venus.
Remove 360 or multiples of it...if the total is high till you get a number less than 360.

5) Place the Beeja ( derived longtiude) in the approrpaite Rashi. If in an odd Rasi indicates natural strong potency....even Rasi indicates weakness.

6) Further ownership of Rasi, benefic conjucntions and aspects strengthen the beej and malefics weaken the beeja.

7) The kshetra sphuta is calculated for FEMALES by adding similarly absolute longitudes of Moon+Mars+Jupiter, removing 360 or multiples of it thereoff and placing in the appropriate sign.

8]If in an even sign indicates a naturally fertile woman.

9)If aspected or conjunct with benefics...fertility/ potency of Beeja and sphuta is enhanced.

10) Malefics ( Ra-Ke, Ma and Sat) are reportedly going to reduce the potency / fertility.
My test cases show Ra-Ket probably are generally adverse.....for Sat and Mar my suggestion is to look closely as to how good or bad they are overall in natives chart.

In my read Mars's influence on Kshetra would indicate surgical processes for Kshetra and Shani will be delays for both beej and Kshetra.
Instead of outright denials of conception especially if Ma and Sat are well placed in the chart.

11)One other theory is if the Kshetra falls in the house of sun or conjunct or aspected by it's direct rays....it's fertility is burnt ( equivalent of combustion).......I am not sure and haven't been able to validate this pasrt.

12) The Beeja and Kshetra sphuta must be used in conjunction with the 5th house/ Jup-the-karak and D7 analysis as an addtional tool for indepth inidctaion and validation of fertility/ conception matters and not standalone.

13) Rasi chart is the best and first place to start......various commnentaries recommend repeating it in Navamsa / and/ or Saptamsa.
I am more inclined to look at it in saptamsa if time permits, although Rasi has generally been suificient to get additional indicators.

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Re: Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

Post by shilpa » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:35 pm

One other factor to examine is Venus.....if combusted or debilitated would have an impact on fertility.
Because Venus rules semen in men and femal reproductive organs in women.
Combustion is more adverse then debolitation...because combustion is a phsycical phenomenon and affects the physical things ruled by Venus...as opposed to debilitation that will affect more the emotional aspects of \venus..althouhg both will have an adverse affect.

so to answer complete questions on fertility/ conception one must look at:

1) The conventional 5th house and putrakarak analysis in D1 and D7.
2) Beeja and Kshetra Sphuta calculations and analysis
3) Venus combustions first and even debilittaion.

for lack of time when I answer queries in childbirth section I look at generally item-1 whihc is the highest weight of the 3 items.

Don't jump to any conclusions seeing only item-3 standalone because combustion and debilitation of Venus is not very uncommon.

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Re: Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

Post by shilpa » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:25 pm

Lets look at an example
woman, 3Sep,1970, 15:15 @ 72E37' and 23N02'; +5:30


Moon = 164deg 11'
Mars= 126deg 41'
Jup = 189deg 26'

Kshetra Sphuta= summation of above = 480deg 17'- 360deg = 120deg17'

--whihc means the kshetra sphuta gets planted at 0deg17' in Leo, conjunct with Sun and Ketu and in an odd sign...all indicators of low fertility.

--She had polycystic ovaries, and concieved after several years of trying...throuhg IUI at a very late age of 35.

--convenstional analysis shows 5th lord in Rasi Mars combust and conjunct with Ketu.... and Shani debilitated in the 5th house...further making conception and delivery difficult.

she had complications and hospitalization during pregnancy--diabetes, on insulin, stunted growth of child and a complex surgey, prolonged post partum fever and infections and stay at the hospital, burning her body literally with the amount of antibiotics injected into her.

--Conception could ve been completely denied to her but for 2 reasons:

1) her husbands very strong chart w.r.t 5th house (lorded by Jupiter in his own house and a high amsabala)

2)and woman's own Venus is very very strong ( in own house in 11th and an amasabala of 6) indicating the robustness of internal female organs.


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Re: Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

Post by shilpa » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:36 pm

woman #2
aug 22, 1981, 5:12am, 72E09, 21N46

Moon= 27deg09'
Mars= 89deg 18'
Jup = 166deg09'

Kshetra Sphuta= 282deg36'

--whihc means it gets planted in Capricorn @12deg36'

--Even sign...but conjunct with Ketu afflictingthe fertility....and lorded by shani...indicating delays.

--5th Lord Ma is in the 12th

--difficulty in conception....several years of trying......the child was born premature and throuhg a complicated surgery with a twisted ( club foot).

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Re: Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

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Re: Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

Post by shilpa » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:20 am

star_star wrote:Shilpa,

I have applied the same formula in my chart
may 18, 1984, 2:49pm, 77E57, 10N21

Moon= 254deg20'
Mars= 204deg41'
Jup = 258deg47'

Kshetra Sphuta= 717deg48' =357 deg 48' means it falls in even sign pieces?

can u pls check this..

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are you a woman ?
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Re: Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

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Re: Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

Post by shilpa » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:39 am

star_star wrote:Shilpa,

Yes...am a female.
thanks for the confirmation

Ma= 204deg41'
Mo= 254deg20'
Jup=258deg47'

Kshetra sphuta= 717deg 48'-360 = 357'48'

whihc means 27deg 48' in Pisces, even sign....ruled by beneifc Jup in it's own house. No other aspects.

high fertility !!


--5th Lord shani is exalted in 2nd house and conjunct with enemy and 8th lors Mars.

--Putrakarak Jup is in his own house.

--combining all the above and from the rasi chart only...high fertility, strong karak for progeny and strong 5th lord, only affliction with Mars indicates some delays and surgical processes.

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Post by astroduffer » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:51 am

the subject of sphutas is not studied much by astrologers, whereas it is the one that provides the most minute details of every aspect of the chart by use of degrees of planets.

A good initiative by shilpa to help us all learn astrology better. I was personally looking forward to learn this and this thread comes at the right time.

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Post by shilpa » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:45 am

since there is a relevant real case....relating to childbirth I am posting here
CSS wrote:Dear Astrlogers,

We are looking for you valuable advise/suggestions/guidence for the good period to have a child.
After 2 miscarriages (first at 5 months, later at 2 months) by the God's grace we are blessed with a girl child 5years back. Since 2.5 years we are trying to have second child but had 3 sequential miscarriages.
We have gone through routine checkups and was told that it is a badluck to have such miscarriages and asked us to keep trying:(...we all three (along with my first daughter to have a brother company) are serious to have another child and looking for your advise.

Please let us know whether we can give a brother to our daughter or has to give up this thought for this life.

Our details are:
8th Oct 1977, 8.36PM Hanamkonda AP India
my Wife: 6th Aug 1977, 5.00 PM near Karimnagar AP India.

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Dear CSS
from man's chart

Su= 171deg41'
Jup= 72deg11'
Ven=146deg03'

Beej Sphuta =Su+jup+Ven = 389deg55'-360 = 29deg55' = Aries @ 29deg55' whihc is an ODD sign,

implies the man has good potency.

--lord of beeja sphuta Mars is conjunct with putrakarak and beneifc Jup.....ensuring potency is not afflicted,

--5th Lord Me is combust in his own house and Rahu takes over that house afflicting the significations of 5th house including childbirth. This is the problem area

--Jup is in neutral Mars

in D7

--5th house lord Ven is afflicted by Ketu

--Jup is in friendly house taken over by Sun...but not combust

--Just finihsed an unfavorable Sun-Me period and folowed by an unafavorable Su-Ket period....finishing in Oct 2011
Thereafter the period are no bad for conception.

--No problems with potency...just a bad period and combusted 5th Lord. Pray to Buddha deva....chant Budha mantra "Om Bum Budhaye Namah| in cycles of 108 times as many times as poissble.
Pray / Fast on Wednesdays if possible and donate green color clothes to poor, wheneevr possible , especially on Wednesdays.


I will lok at your wife's cahrt later.

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Post by CSS » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:25 pm

Shilpa Ji - Did you analysed my wife's chart. As per your analysis, we can have a male child for sure and we can still take one more chance this year correct? I personally dont want to disturb my wife's health as I can understand the pain she had last time in US here.
Our Doctor here suggest to go in the month of Aug/Sep...Please let us know good time to have healthy male child

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Post by anuradha » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:32 pm

Please let us know good time to have healthy male child

Please avoid such questions. Regards anu
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Post by shilpa » Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:58 am

anuradha wrote:
Please let us know good time to have healthy male child

Please avoid such questions. Regards anu

Anuradha is right....it's morally incorrect and I believe in India legally also not rigth to answer such questions.
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Re: Beeja & Kshetra Sphuta-The Astrological Sperm & Ovary

Post by Maharani » Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:01 am

Hi Shilpa,

Why not try testing this out with me? I dont have kids because I never wanted any-but I was normally fertile inasmuch as I have never had any reproductive issues that I know of. Of course-if there were problems I would never have known.....Now post menopause-SO glad!! DOB February 17 1955, 5:55 pm (your rectified TOB), Mumbai. I'd be curious to know what your result is. Thanks!

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Post by CSS » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:22 am

Sure...I will avoid posting such questions. But can you answer the good time for 2nd child

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