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Post by deeps » Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:52 pm

Saturn Transit seems to be working for major people. For Sagi Moon, the deepest desire of meeting a usperstar fulfilled. For Virgo lagna, the dream of owning a dream car fulfilled, etc. Lord Saturn is giving abundant of dividends to hard workers. Cheers!!!



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Post by basab14 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:01 pm

As per the scientists, astrology is not a science, but a pseudo science. As per them, the planets in the sky influencing our life is a big joke, and efforts not giving results is nothing about destiny: it's just that the effort has not been properly made, or the person is not capable enough to get what he wants. For one prediction coming true, five go wrong, so maybe the correct predictions are just out of sheer coincidence, they may say. They treat astrology and destiny the same way they treat rebirth.

Astrology has its basis in the concept of rebirth and same applies to destiny. If there is no rebirth, astrology turns out to be meaningless and so does destiny because it would be meaningless a person being born with a bad birth chart and another with a good birth chart just because of the whims of the planets.

If astrology has been proved, then rebirth also has been proved. There are hundreds of cases around the world of people, who have remembered their past lives and people highly respected in society like Dr. Brian Weiss a psychiatrist of great renown, Edgar Cayce, a very famous and reputed psychic, and Dr Ian Stevenson, a psychiatrist of great repute who has done a lot of research on it. One can get to know about rebirth, and the research that has been done on it by Dr. Ian Stevenson to show why it is true: http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-proof.htm
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Re: CELEBRATING - THE - TRANSIT - 0F - SATURN - IN LIBRA

Post by p.mahesh » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:28 pm

Hi Yellow,

yes I saw p.m. I remove things because hardly anybody in forum shows interest, may be my way of thinking is different..

Before moderators or I delete, here are my views:

Regarding past births etc.. I do not deny there are past births, future ones may be..

But Karma Theory that X suffers due to past birth deeds OR X troubled Y in past birth hence X is suffering
all these relations between past birth deeds and present destiny has not been srtudied extensively.


Regarding some complain good suffer, bad prosper... I noticed that is how Karma sidhantha (assuming it is correct) works..This is true with all believers (saints devotees etc.) too who seems to suffer more than non-believers (in Kaliyuga, it is Bhaktas who face hurdles time to time)

I noticed that It works differently for good and bad people.
God's main aim seems to be help people (only if approaches) not by giving boons or lifting up.. rather
to clear past birth debts, who act as speed breakers in present journey to progress.
Thus, for so-called good people (who appear to be good), first hurdles come so that dues are gradually cleared, thus making the path smooth (removing spead breakers) gradually..
For Bad guys (again appear to be bad), intially all past birth dues are given so that after some time, they left with zero positive balance, then start fealing the heat..

Hence, Karma sidhanata works as exp(T) for good people and as exp(-T) for bad people as a function of time T.. and at some point of time these two exponential functions cross.

BTW what happened to all these 2012, incarnations theories?
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Post by p.mahesh » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:35 pm

Regarding Bad people having strong malefics which gives success and good people suffer..

My view is that malefic planets are highly competitive, has killer instinct. They make you compare with others

See the philosophy.. malefics are associated with Asuras and Benefics with Suras (both in terms of Gunas or nature).. and there is always a fight between these two as Asuars think they got injustice during Sagar manthan.. hence they have revolt instinct (being Rajositic, they can not keep quite)

Thus, for material success, it is better to have strong malefics which make you competitive than soft. Let me tell you with experience, if one has to evolve either spiritually or materially, one has to get hard experience which comes only with practice in public life. Thus it is always better to be thorough competitive to make you aware what happens in public, to get motivated, to work, to get experience and to grow..

Whereas Benefics makes you softer, incompetent, take easy attitude towards problems. Such people look within than out. Thus strong Benefics may be good for highly evolved Gyanis (like some ladies and gents in this forum).. but, for some such people (introverts) after sometime these soft planets make gradually, unknowingly.. live under illusion/imaginations, and finally cynical, incompetant, isolated.

I feel any person who takes birth in material world must have some inherent deficiency/desire which cannot be ignored. Such Gyanis too must have some reason why they took birth in material world. They cannot hide or take it easily..

If one has to know life purpose, one has to activate inner spark with strong motivations.. and thats what exactly Natural malefics do. Thus in a sense, it is natural malefics who helps for spirtual/material growth in long run for all living human beings in the material world

Thus, as long a person lives/takes birth in competitive world, the best planetary positions would be strong Natural malefics, but externally aspected by (soft) benefics so that the free malefics (un-controlled missiles or fire) are mellowed a bit with cool water (benefics) when the fire (malefics) turn uncontrollable as time goes on..
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Post by basab14 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:36 pm

Mahesh,

Brilliant posts by you. I agree with you on them completely. I think it makes complete sense what you have said. Coming to 2012 incarnation theories, I don't know about that. I never said about it, though, so you can't question me on that. And then, 2012 is not over yet, so whatever the theory is, it may come true and prove the person right.
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Post by p.mahesh » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:46 pm

Yellow,

Thanks for appreciation..

Best wishes, good luck

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Post by gaurav1185 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:05 pm

Yellow...no where I wanted to test your knowledge. My idea of providing the details of my friend was to provide an example and have healthy discussion. Anyways its good to know Saturn didn't play a spoil sport in his case.

I am still learning ifs and buts of astrology and it was to my wonder that my friend who has Saturn in lagna turned out to be lustful person and on contrary me having Mars/Venus in 7th never went on those lines.

Anyways I appreciate the points you guys made on his chart and have added them to my knowledge.

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Post by basab14 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:39 pm

Gaurav,

I am sorry then, my friend, I misunderstood you. My school friend has Venus-Mars in the 7th house, and it has not given him any lust. He was never interested in making girlfriends till he was 30 when he got married--it was an arranged marriage. After you asked me about your chart, I checked the astrology book, where I have read about this combination, and it's written there that Venus-Mars in fixed signs and most probably in the 7th house, if I am remembering correctly, gives one a very strong sexual desire. That is why I was putting so much emphasis on Venus-Mars having relation to sexual desires, but there are always exception to the rule. In your case it didn't work, just like it didn't work in my friend's case, but it works in most cases. It normally does and that is why this rule is there in the first place.
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Post by deeps » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:31 am

Total world population was 370 million in in 1350 and now it is 7.032 billion after March 2012. Does reincarnation theory exists?

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Post by basab14 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:22 am

Deeps,

If you don't want to believe in theory of reincarnation, no one is stopping you from that. I don't believe in thrusting my belief on others. You and Humannature and many others don't believe in rebirth, and that's perfectly fine. I have not taken the responsibility of convincing people that there is rebirth. I shared my thoughts on it in this thread. People may take my posts on it seriously, and they may laugh on them--that's up to them.

Coming to your question, I have read this that one soul can take birth in many bodies simultaneously, and they do that for the sake of speeding up the process of evolution as sometimes there is too much karmic burden that will take a lot more time to exhaust by taking birth in one body. As it is Kali yuga now, so the sins have increased so each soul I am sure finds it sensible to take birth in many bodies to exhaust their bad karmas.
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Post by anxious2711 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:35 am

p.mahesh wrote: See the philosophy.. malefics are associated with Asuras and Benefics with Suras (both in terms of Gunas or nature)
I would just like to point out that although Mangal, Shani and Surya are considered natural malefics, they are first of all Gods/Devs. The only demons among all planets are Rahu and Ketu.

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Post by basab14 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:06 am

Thank you, Deepak ji for your post, supporting the point about the connection between rebirth and astrology. Is it from the book "Karma and Rebirth in Hindu Astrology" by K.N. Rao?
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Post by astroboy » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:25 am

The image was sent to me. It is supposedly from the book "Astrology, Destiny and the wheel of time" by K.N.Rao.
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Post by elipsis » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:32 am

Reincarnation is 100% real, but soul does not preserve individuality- which means there can be any number of people just like you with the same personality traits.
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Post by basab14 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:47 am

Oh, okay. Thank you for telling me about it.
astroboy wrote:The image was sent to me. It is supposedly from the book "Astrology, Destiny and the wheel of time" by K.N.Rao.
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Post by astroboy » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:12 am

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Post by SriRama » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:12 am

Yellow wrote:As per the scientists, astrology is not a science, but a pseudo science. As per them, the planets in the sky influencing our life is a big joke, and efforts not giving results is nothing about destiny: it's just that the effort has not been properly made, or the person is not capable enough to get what he wants. For one prediction coming true, five go wrong, so maybe the correct predictions are just out of sheer coincidence, they may say. They treat astrology and destiny the same way they treat rebirth.

Astrology has its basis in the concept of rebirth and same applies to destiny. If there is no rebirth, astrology turns out to be meaningless and so does destiny because it would be meaningless a person being born with a bad birth chart and another with a good birth chart just because of the whim of the planets.

If astrology has been proved, then rebirth also has been proved. There are hundreds of cases around the world of people, who have remembered their past lives and people highly respected in society like Dr. Brian Weiss a psychiatrist of great renown, Edgar Cayce, a very famous and reputed psychic, and Dr Ian Stevenson, a psychiatrist of great repute who has done a lot of research on it. One can get to know about rebirth, and the research that has been done on it by Dr. Ian Stevenson to show why it is true: http://reluctant-messenger.com/reincarnation-proof.htm


Great one yellow. Absolutely agree. Shri Narada Muni says the same in Srimad Bhagavatam in a nutshell: Each person (soul) reaps in next life what he sows in the present life -good or bad. What goes around comes around. Same was taught by philosophers from other religions too.

That is why saintly people irrespective of what faith they follow, forgive easily and develop compassion towards everyone to elevate themselves birth after birth.
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Post by basab14 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:15 am

Sri Rama,

Thanks for liking my post. I agree with you completely on what you said. It's the karmas of the present life which decides on the destiny of our next life. Nothing happens without reason. It can't be the planets have a grudge on someone so it brings misfortune for that person and has an affection for someone so rewarding him with fortunes. If astrology has to hold meaning, rebirth has to be there, and the law of karma has to be there.

Yes, forgiving is very important as otherwise in trying to get revenge, one ends up accumulating more karma for himself, which he has to burn off in another life. Jesus Christ was asked how many times should a man forgive his brother, and he said, as many times as possible. That is the wisdom of a saint, which ordinary people don't understand.

Yes, forgiveness and compassion, and also service of the helpless and the weak is all important. Serve people, and you will serve God was what Swami Vivekananda had said.
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Post by SriRama » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:26 am

Yellow wrote: Jesus Christ was asked how many times should a man forgive his brother, and he said, as many times as possible. That is the wisdom of a saint, which normal people don't understand.


Agreed, about Jesus Christ. One of the greatest souls we have ever heard of -that's why he is worshipped as one of the messengers of god.

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Post by basab14 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:33 am

Yeah, Sri Rama, definitely one of the greatest souls: he was one of the incarnations of God.
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Post by deeps » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:29 am

Hi Yellow,

Now suppose I accept the theory of reincarnation. I would also like to share the article here where one senior student of KN rao had done extensive research on this prove this theory right. It was something like this- 5th house connected with rahu or ketu indicate that one was either grandfather or grandmother, etc in a previous life. If i find that article, I will produce it here. It is interesting.

Now you know that our present actions determine furture life. Take an example of a mosquito. :mrgreen:

You know what mosquito does. He sleeps in the day. Wakes up at night and begin hunt for human beings particularly women (as the scientists proved in TOI) and drink blood. What are his other activities? Ofcourse to mate and make meryy and then die as they have very short span of life, or even shorter span of life if it is unlucky in the hands of us.

Now suppose, this mosquito reincarnates as a human being and inherited karmas from his previous life :mrgreen: . What will be his destiny now? :roll:

One thing more I would sure like to know if we can find out whether a person was a mosquito from a birth chart? I am not joking but serious. :)
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Post by takla » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:12 am

SriRama wrote: Great one yellow. Absolutely agree. Shri Narada Muni says the same in Srimad Bhagavatam in a nutshell: Each person (soul) reaps in next life what he sows in the present life -good or bad. What goes around comes around. Same was taught by philosophers from other religions too.

That is why saintly people irrespective of what faith they follow, forgive easily and develop compassion towards everyone to elevate themselves birth after birth.
I am not too sure about other religions, Judaic religions (Christianity/Islam) don't believe in rebirth. I guess different belief is all what we got for cover, no pun intended.

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Post by astroboy » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:49 pm

Now suppose, this mosquito reincarnates as a human being and inherited karmas from his previous life . What will be his destiny now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_as_food
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by astroboy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:19 am
Now suppose, this mosquito reincarnates as a human being and inherited karmas from his previous life . What will be his destiny now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_as_food
OMG.. :shock: I nearly vomitted :oops:

It does makes sense now. :D That explains that those who have penchant for eating meat, chickens and drinking blood must be animals, insects in the past life. :evil: I am glad I did not have any single liking for these things since birth. Thankyou for sharing an article. I am beginning to get convinced in this reincarnation theory now. :D

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