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subhashita

Post by suniti » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:45 am

Pranaams to All

i was thinking just to start a thread on subhashitas where anyone can contribute if they wanted to in any language. Subhashita means "well said" and there are too many to count but each verse has some practical or even some higher knowledge as well. Many have basic tunes and some have even more beautiful ways of chanting. Some can be from manu smriti or works of bhartrihari some are humourous, religious or of a nature of higher knowledge like Bhaja Govindam. In regional languages there are many such works that fall into this category like the "Kagga" of DVG. If anyone would like to contribute here it would be really nice for all.

Here are a few to start...

amantram aksharam naasti, naasti mulam anaushadham,
ayogya purushah naasti yojagastatra durlabhah
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There is no letter that is not a mantra
there is no root which is not a medicine
in that way each person has there own specialty
but finding that is difficult.


akartavyam na kartavyam praanaih kantha gatairapi
kartavyam eva kartavyam praanaih kanta gatairapi


Never do what it is not to be done even when the prana reaches the throat (close to death)
Do only what is to be done even when the prana reaches the throat.
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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:51 am

The next one is from the great Kalidasa and im sure many of you already know it

Like many poetry contests of olden days a King had made a contest for anyone to compose a verse that had one quarter of it as gulagug gulugug gulugug

and Kalidasaji's winning entry was

Jambuphalaani pakvaani
patanti vimale jale
kapi kampita shaakhabhyah
gulugug gulugug gulugug


When the branches of the Jamun tree were shaken by the monkeys, the ripe berries falling on the surface of clear water then produced the sound "gulugug gulugug gulugug"
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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:13 am

Another one of our Kaviraaja

This also ha a contest invloved and the King has determined the last verse as
"Ka Kha Ga Gha"

Kalidasaji does not come up with a verse actually according to the story linked to this verse. He tries but is not able to come up with anything. He decides however to attend the competition as an audience member. On his walk to the competition he meets a small girl with whom he engages in conversation. It goes like this.

kaa tvam baale kanchanamala
kasya putri kanakalataya
haste kim te thalipatram
kaa vaa rekhaa ka kha ga gha


"Who are you?" he asks the girl.
"Kanchanamala" she replies
"Whose daughter are you?"
"Daughter of Kanakalata"
"What is in your hand?" he asks
"palm leaves (used for writing)" she replies.
"What is written there? he asks
"KA KHA GA GHA"


again another winning verse

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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:05 pm

Doctors should not feel offended by the next subhashita but see the humour of those times....

Vaidhyaraja namastubhyam yamaraajasahodarah
yamah tu harati praanam vaidhyaraajah dhanaani cha


Salutations to the Doctor, the brother of Yama
While Yamaraja takes the life, the Vaidhya takes the money

:D
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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:12 pm

The next subhashita is basad on the story of samudra mathana...

kim vaasasaa ityatra vichaaraniyam
vaasah pradhaanam khalu yogyataayai
pitambaram vikshya dadau svakanyaam
digambaram vikshya visham samudrah


What is the importance of ones dress is point of contemplation
as is it is indeed importance for some things
Seeing the One dressed in Yellow clothes (Sri Vishnu) the ocean gave his own Daughter
and seeing the One clad in nothing (Sri Shiva) the ocean gave him poison :wink: :wink:
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Re: subhashita

Post by ChandraLagna » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:11 am

suniti wrote:Doctors should not feel offended by the next subhashita but see the humour of those times....

Vaidhyaraja namastubhyam yamaraajasahodarah
yamah tu harati praanam vaidhyaraajah dhanaani cha


Salutations to the Doctor, the brother of Yama
While Yamaraja takes the life, the Vaidhya takes the money

:D
HILARIOUS !
--भज गोविन्दं... भज गोविन्दं...गोविन्दं भज, मूढमते --

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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:23 am

The next verse is from ManuSmriti and is very beautiful and specific in nature:

satyam bruyaat priyam bruyaat na bruyaat satyam apriyam
priyam cha naanrtam bruyaay esha dharmah sanatanah

Speak what is truth and what is pleasant, dont speak what is true but unpleasant
and don't speak what is pleasant but untrue, this is the eternal dharma.
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Re: subhashita

Post by Talib » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:41 pm

Suniti Ji,

Here is my contribution in "subhashita" . These lines are written by a famous sufi saint, "Amir Khusro".


"Khusro dariya prem ka, ulti wa ki dhaar,
Jo utara so doob gaya, jo dooba so paar."



Oh Khusro, the river of love is so mysterious!
It runs against the grain

He who resists it is swallowed forever by the waves
He who drowns in it makes it across


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Re: subhashita

Post by swamykool » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:06 am

Hi Suniti,

Cool thread. And that Vaidya couplet was somply hilarious. :mrgreen:

Ok, here's my titbit 8)

ashvam naiva gajam naiva
vyaghram naiva naiva cha
ajaputram balim daddat
devah durbala-ghatakah
8)

A horse is never sacrificed, an elephant is never sacrificed
a tiger is never ever sacrificed,
Only the son of a goat (or sheep) is sacrificed,
even the Gods destroy only the weak. 8)

A horse is never sacrificed - too important for wars and very costly (only in ashvamedha sacrifice was a Horse sacrificed, but that could be performed only by emperors and only one horse was sacrificed). So with elephants, too powerful and too important for many things. Sacrificing a tiger (or lion), perish the thought. :shock: The sacrificer or the priest could themselves end up in his belly. 8) So that leaves only the weak animals who are too many in numbers and their contribution is through their meat, skin, wool or milk. And who cannot scare off anybody.

Thus the nugget of wisdom - it doesn't pay to be weak, the world belongs to the strong. Its the law of nature. Veerbhogya vasundhara. Om shanti, shanti shantihih. 8) :twisted:
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Re: subhashita

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by swamykool » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:36 pm

A horse is never sacrificed, an elephant is never sacrificed
a tiger is never ever sacrificed,
Only the son of a goat (or sheep) is sacrificed,
even the Gods destroy only the weak.

Thus the nugget of wisdom - it doesn't pay to be weak, the world belongs to the strong. Its the law of nature. Veerbhogya Vasundhara.
I am given to believe SK ji, that Adolf Hitler made two quotes which are in tune with your statements,

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
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I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.
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Re: subhashita

Post by astroboy » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:34 am

and the best of all,
Who says I am not under the special protection of God? -
Adolf Hitler
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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:40 am

@Arunbhai please do contribute some subhashitas
@Talibji...waiting for many more from you please include Kabirji dohas

swamykool wrote:
ashvam naiva gajam naiva
vyaghram naiva naiva cha
ajaputram balim daddat
devah durbala-ghatakah
8)

A horse is never sacrificed, an elephant is never sacrificed
a tiger is never ever sacrificed,
Only the son of a goat (or sheep) is sacrificed,
even the Gods destroy only the weak. 8)
Thanks Swamykoolji :D please contribute more of these
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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:44 am

the following is again from Manu Smriti:

yatra naryastu pujyante ramante tatra devataah
yatraitaastu na pujyante sarvaastatra-aphalaah kriyaah


Where the women are respected the Gods are happy,
but where they are not honoured no sacred ritual can ever give phala.
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Re: subhashita

Post by anuradha » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:53 am

http://www.greenmesg.org/mantras_slokas.phpआचार्यात् पादमादते पादं शिष्यः स्वमेधया ।
पादं सब्रह्मचारिभ्यः पादं कालक्रमेण च ॥


A student learns a quarter from teacher, a quarter from own intelligence, a quarter from fellow students, and the rest in course of time.http://samskrutam.com/samskrit/sanskrit ... sitam.aspx
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Re: subhashita

Post by swamykool » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:02 am

I am given to believe SK ji, that Adolf Hitler made two quotes which are in tune with your statements,
Hey AB, these are not my statements, :shock: its a very well known snskrit shloka. I just paraphrased. 8)

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Re: subhashita

Post by swamykool » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:11 am

Ok now here's another nugget. 8) This is one of the very well known shlokas of Chanakya.

ati-darpe hata lanka
ati-maane cha kaurava
ati-daane balir-vaddha
sarvam atyanta garhitam


too much arrogance destroyed Lanka (Ravan and his golden city)
too much vanity destroyed the Kauravas (the whole damn clan)
too much charity ruined Bali (King Mahabali of Vamanavatara - the word vaddha actually means shackled)
too much in anything is to be forbidden (i.e. very very bad)

The last line varies in construction through different versions of this shloka, in some versions it is rendered as "ati sarvatra barjyate" - too much of anything is to be eschewed. However the overall meaning is the same.

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Re: subhashita

Post by Talib » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:28 pm

A sufi prayer by baba bulleh shah:


Pharr nukta chor hisabaan noon
Kar door kufr diaa babaan noon
Chad dozakh gor azabaa noon
Kar saaf dille diaan khuwaban noon
Gal aise ghar wich dhakdi ay

Ik nukte wich gal mukdi he


Phar murshad abd khudaii hoo
Wich masti be perwaii hoo
Be khuwahish be nawaii hoo
Wich dil de khub safaii hoo
Bullah baat sachi kadun rukdi he

Ik nukte wich gal mukdi he

Meaning:

pick the formulae(nukta) and stop worrying abt lengthy calculations.
Leave this hell(dojakh)(samsar) which is full of sufferings
clean ur thoughts and ur heart, control ur desires.

this is the formulae u need to learn


get blessings of a master(murshid) who is second to god
and who is full of inner happiness,
who is wdout any desires and demand
who is clear from heart
then, truth will not hide from u for long.

this is the formulae u need to learn


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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:53 pm

thanks anuradhaji..one of my favorites
thanks talibji do post more they are very beautiful.

Swamykoolji i was also thinking of Chanakya verses so thank you so much for putting this one down and send many more :D
one small note though is that the words vadha here means destroyed, it was King Mahabali's charity that caused his destruction,,,, loss of his kingdom and a ticket to patala

here is another on the fulitity and harm caused by worrying

chitayaascha chintayascha bindu-matra-visheshatah
chita dahati nirjivam chinta dahati jivitam


The difference between the words chinta (worry) and chitta (funeral pyre) is just a dot (the anuswar producing the n in this case ) but the funeral pyre burns one while they are dead and worry burns one while they are alive.
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Re: subhashita

Post by swamykool » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:40 pm

Hi Suniti,

Just 2 notes -

The word I think is vaddha which means bound, and not vadha which means killing or destruction. Bali was practically imprisoned in the underworld (though he was given the rulership of UW, he was allowed to come out only once a year), and not destroyed per se by the vamanavatara of Vishnu.

You have typed 'Chitta' which means soul or mind. I think the word should be 'Chita' which means funeral pyre. Thus 'chitayashcha chintayashcha bindumatravisheshatah'.

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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:26 pm

Pranaam Swamykoolji

thanks for the chitta thing actually i had several mistakes in it
first i had put chinta and chita in 2nd case and corrected it later
i cant find this variation online of the subhashita thus making my chitta confused :D will edit the extra "t" in it out now.

about Mahabali subhashita the version that i have has vadha but like all of these things there may be many different versions. in any case it is enjoyable :D :D

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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:58 pm

ashanam me vasanam me jaayaa me bandhuvargo me
iti me me kurvaanam kalavriko hanti purushaajam

MY food MY house MY wife MY friends My relations
the man who keeps saying MY MY (me me) sounds like a goat that the wolf called Time kills.
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Re: subhashita

Post by Talib » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:12 pm

suniti wrote:MY food MY house MY wife MY friends My relations the man who keeps saying MY MY (me me) sounds like a goat that the wolf called Time kills.
Suniti Ji,

I have one quite similar to what you have posted above. Its been written by Baba Fareed, "sufi mystic".

Farida daryave kanne baggla betha kayl karay
Kayl karainde hanj nu, achintay baaj paaye
Baaj paye tis rab de kaylaañ visriyañ
Jo mann chit na chayte san so gaale rub ki-aa.

Meaning:

Fareed, the crane perches on the river bank, playing joyfully.
While it is playing, a hawk suddenly pounces on it.
When the Hawk of God attacks, playful sport is forgotten.
God does what is not expected or even considered.


conclusion is, its all "his will" our so called joyfull play is not permanent.

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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:43 pm

that was a beautiful one Talibji

no discussion on subhashita can be complete without the following:

aakaashaat patitam toyam yathagacchati saagaram
sarvadevanamaskarah keshavam pratigacchati


Just like every drop of water that falls from the sky goes to the ocean
so too every namaskar to any God goes to Keshava.
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Re: subhashita

Post by suniti » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:15 pm

aham cha tvam cha rajendra lokanaathaavubhau samau
bahuvrihih aham raajan shashti-tatpurusho-bhavaan


Oh King, both of us are called "Lokanath" however you are called Lokanatha in the shashti tatpurusha sense and i am called Lokanatha in the bahuvrihi sense.


Thee are two kinds of compounds that the author is playing with. Essentially if the meaning of the word Lokanatha is split as a shashti tatpurusha compound it means one who is "Ruler of the World", in the bahuvrihi sense it means "one who has the world as his ruler"
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Re: subhashita

Post by swamykool » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:55 am

Suniti,

Shashthi tatpurush and bahuvrihi :shock: this is why sanskrit grammer is a killer. :mrgreen: This nugget is entirely mine though. 8)
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