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Step Mother

Post by manya » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:45 pm

Respected members,

I would like to know what are combinations in a person's chart which shows that he/she will be bought by step mom and will lose his biological mom.


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Re: Step Mother

Post by basab14 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:25 pm

An afflicted 4th house/lord and Moon can mean that.
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Re: Step Mother

Post by manya » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:25 am

Thanks Yellow ji.

If Mars is in 4th house, in own sign then what does it indicate?
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Re: Step Mother

Post by basab14 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:30 am

Akansha ji,

It will give gains from property, and problems (though not much) in domestic life.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by manya » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:46 am

And in terms of mother?
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Re: Step Mother

Post by basab14 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:54 am

In terms of mother also not very good. Mother will be dominating and aggressive and independent, but relation between the person and his/her mother may not be good.
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Re: Step Mother

Post by manya » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:32 am

But does it show step mom?
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Re: Step Mother

Post by basab14 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:47 am

Difficult to say.
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Re: Step Mother

Post by mercurialman » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:30 am

Dear Akanksha,

May Lord Krishna's divince grace shine upon you. I am a student but I will try to give my 2 cents..

A single placement might not indicate anything in vedic astrology. I have always been taught to try and look at it wholistically considering every factor, every placement in the chart.

Mars in 4th house and own house does not mean much except that it could potentially give Ruchaka Mahapurusha Yoga if Mars is benefic. Is it conjuct some planet? What degress? how close is the conjuction? Is it aspected by some planet? How is the Arudha Pada of 4th house? How is natal moon which is sahaja matru karaka? All of these factors influence the native's relationship with mother.

I think there could be a couple of ways to determine if a native will have step mother or not.

First we need to check for any afflctions to fourth house and or fourth lord and look for any positive aspects.
Along with it Check for 6th house (3rd from 4th) and 11th house (8th from 4th). Check for Rahu-Ketu Axis on the 4th and or Moon. Check for condition of moon as natural matru karaka. Barbara Pijan lama states that moon in 11th house in dignity could denote a step mother who is benign. I have also learnt that a strong connection between 6th house and 4 th lord could indicate a legal mother..

All of this should be supported by a tragic vimsottari dasha antar dasha in the past which causes the separation from natural mother.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by manya » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:30 pm

Thanks Mercurialman.
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Re: Step Mother

Post by Ann » Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:14 am

Hi Mercurialman

You said:-

"Mars in 4th house and own house does not mean much except that it could potentially give Ruchaka Mahapurusha Yoga if Mars is benefic"

Suppose this MARS was not a benefic - what then does Ruchaka yoga mean?

Be most grateful if you could answer - at the moment I have Mars in Scorpio in 7th house - I believe because Mars is in its own house this makes it this yoga - am I correct?

Also would not this person get to his answer by first locating his 9th house (father) then 7 places from that 1st wife and then 7 from that again 2nd wife - if its wrong that's OK I am just a novice or maybe 4th (mother) in his chart and then 4th from that (2nd mother)? Perhaps some of the more experiences people on the forum could answer this. I would like to know anyway - there are an awful lot of 2nd marriages going on now.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by manya » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:45 am

Hi Ann,

You have raised a good question, infact it came to my mind as well. May be learned members can explain this.

Hi Mercurialman ji,

I have two charts-

1. Libra lagna, venus, sun and Mer in 1st house, 2nd house- rahu, 3rd house- moon, 4th house-mars & jup, 6th house- sat, 8th house-ketu. What can be said about this native's mom?

2 . Scorpio lagna, 2nd house- rahu, 4th house- jup, 6th house- sun & mer, 7th house- venus, 8th house- ketu, 11th house- saturn & moon .

I would be very grateful if you please explain.
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Re: Step Mother

Post by Ann » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:08 am

Hi Akansha

Well if we go by Khoo's theory the 8th (loss) is the 12th of the 9th (father) Ketu (loss) in both charts are in the 8th so is the answer the loss of the 2nd wife (step mother) or is it 4th from 4th the mother's mother or is it loss of 1st wife being 7th from the 9th - oh dear I did tell you I was a novice - totally confused now.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by manya » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:47 pm

Hi Ann,

I really do not know if Ketu in 8th means that.

In first case 4th lord is in 6th house...and actually in first case the native's real mom died when he was very young and he lived throught out his life with his step mom.

I do not know about second case.

I am waiting for Mercurianman ji to reply back.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by swamykool » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:25 am

akn,

When Moon and the 4th L are both in Dwiswabhav rashis, it indicates a stepmother. But does not necessarily indicate that own mother would be dead. When Moon, 4th H and 4th L all 3 are in Dwiswabhav Rashis the indication becomes stronger.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by Ann » Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:58 am

Hi Swamykool

Thanks for answering the riddle. I am clear on this point now. So how does one know if original mother has just left the family or has died hopefully this is not too sensitive a question.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by swamykool » Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:10 am

Hi Ann,

What i have given is just a broad framework. There are many finer calculations.

However for judging whether the original mother is alive or not one has to calculate using the Marak Hs & Ls (2nd and 7th) and 8th H & L from Moon. The usual techniques of Ayu Vichar, which are always a bit tricky.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by manya » Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:46 pm

Hi Swamykool ji,

Thanks for answering.

The two charts that i have posted above, in first case the native's biological mom died when he was 2. And he lived his entire life with his step mom. Could you please guide me with ur analysis on that?

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Re: Step Mother

Post by swamykool » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:50 am

hi akn,

For the 1st chart - Shani the Marak L (2nd) fr moon, aspects moon. Moon being the karak for mother. But I cannot explain the timing without proper birth details. For timing drawing the vimshottari dasha is necessary.

My guess is Moon is in Moola, so the first MD would be of ketu. But might be wrong.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by manya » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:22 am

Swamykool ji,

I do not have his birth details.

FIrst Mahadasha was of Sun and he lost his mother when he was 2 and half.

What about the second chart?
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Re: Step Mother

Post by swamykool » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:00 pm

akn,

In that case, Moon is in Uttarashadha (janma tara) and if mother died at the age of 2.5 ketu must be in Krittika. There is a possibility that Shani would be in Revati (naidhan tara fr moon). What did she die of? Accident or heart failure, by any chance??

I have not seen the 2nd chart, so can't say.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by manya » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:27 pm

Swamykool ji,

I will check Nakshtra's placement and will get back. His mom died of a disease i guess TB....

Please check second chart also, i would like to know your opinion.
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Re: Step Mother

Post by swamykool » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:40 pm

akn,

Sun rules the chest area, heart and lungs. Yeah, TB is possible. And Sun is deb and with the 8th L from Lg. Possible.

Without proper birth time, every thing becomes pure guesswork. See you can get the BT for the 2nd chart.

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Re: Step Mother

Post by pujajha » Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:42 pm

Respected astrologers,
I am posting here three charts, where the parents( mother and father) were killed by the terrorists in May 1992, and all three of them were brought up by relatives.( the three were separated too as were taken care of by different relations) May be some conclusions can be drawn regarding the indications for such events
DOB; 27.10.1978
POB: Patiala (Punjab)
TOB: 20:22

DOB: 21.12.1980
POB: Samrala(Ludhiana) Punjab
TOB: 23:24

DOB: 06.02.1984
POB: Amritsar( Punjab)
TOB: 21:15
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Re: Step Mother

Post by swamykool » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:43 pm

PJ,

Will need some time for this, but I'll get back.
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