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Post by janakshah » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:26 am

Hello Rajitha,

As every sign is of 30 degrees, to decide the strength of conjunction or any other aspect between two planets, the principle of proportional strength, based on an inverse ratio to 30 degrees applies. Two planets that are 10 degrees apart will exert about 67 percent of their potential force on each other. If they are 15 degrees apart, they will exert about 50 percent. If they are 7 degrees and 30 minutes apart, they will exert about 75 percent. Beyond 15 degrees orb there strength drops exponentially. And if a planet is aspected by more than one planet, the aspect with a tighter orb always takes precedence.

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Post by Basab » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:41 pm

hi Rajitha,
you can say that. ketu being quite far away from the moon has helped the moon in giving her a fair complexion and jupiter's aspect on the 7th house definitely has helped. i believe if rahu-ketu was not there in 1-7 axis she would have been more pretty.

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Post by rajitha » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:54 am

Janak, thanks for the explanation on the orb of aspect and conjunction. Very good tips.

Basab, thanks for the info. I have heard that Venus/Moon represent traditional beauty but Rahu indicates exotic beauty.
Any idea about this?

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Post by Basab » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:42 am

no idea about Rahu.

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Post by anupam1968 » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:40 pm

If you read medical books published few years back, you will notice that the medical students were taught by every classic medical books to cover a person who is on fire, with a blanket. Now, refer to modern classics and you will notice that they teach to pour cold water on such a person. This is not an isolated example, there are many more. And medical science is far accurate than astrology.
Dear Janak,

Dont think I am arguing or trying to impose my views I am just sharing what I have seen in my life:

1. The incident was around 20 years back when my father used to do palmistry just as a hobby. A Danish lady came to my father for knowing that whether she would bear a child since all the well known Danish Doctors had told her that she could not be a mother. My father analysed her hand and told her that she would give birth to a daughter within five years. Medically speaking it was just impossible but now she is mother of two children a girl and a boy. So, what doctors were unable to see that happened. Now the Danish lady has more faith in my father rather doctors. She always comes to meet him whenever she visits to India.

2. The second case was of our family doctor. My father told him that he must care about his heart but he laughed and mocked at him since he had no symptoms of heart trouble then. And You know what happened he just died due to heart attack just seven years back. The prediction was also given when I was 10 or 11 years old now I am 39.

3. The third case is of my Uncle. As soon as my marriage took place he got a kind of mysterious disease which doctors were unable to diagnose and inspite of wasting money for full one year in different prescriptions and medicines he had not avail of anything. Almost every well known doctors of hospitals like Apolo, AIIMS said to him that he had some psychological troubles since there was no disease at all. But in return he lost his weight around 25 kg and day by day it was decreasing. He had great faith in me and asked me in utter depression what is happening to him.

I was quite ameture in my astrological knowledge then but after going through his horoscope I found that liver was the reason for all the troubles he had been facing. I suggested him some astrological remedies for 40 days. And exactly after 15 days my mother suggested him to go to our family doctor. That doctor was not a specialist or well known like other doctors he had met. But as soon as my uncle went to him he told straightway that my uncle had liver trouble and he had to take his prescribed medicines for 3 months. My uncle got fast recovery and within 3 months he was hale and hearty.

You know why his disease was undiagonsed since he was running the period of Rahu then and rahu is a shadowy planet. He is also a significator of illusion. So, when he did the prescribed remedy for a certain period of time for pacifying rahu his disease got diagnosed and he became cured.

4. The fourth case was of a much talked young man who literally swallowed around 80 pills of different medicines including 20 pills of proxy 1,a great tranquilizar to end his life in utter desperation. His father admitted him to a hospital but doctors told his father to take away his son since nothing could be done now. He was almost near to unconsciousness and crying please save me. His weeping father rang me and told me please save my son. I was in a fix what to do. Suddenly I got a flash that he would be saved but suggest him to do mahamrituanjaya mantra. I told his father whenever he opens his eyes even for 2 minutes gave him this mantra. The boy had also great faith in me he did as suggested. And within 2 hours after reciting the mantra the doctors were saying that boy had done miracle and now he was out of danger.

I can give many more examples but I think the mail will become too lenghty. So, I am of the view that medical science, doctors are just mere instruments who work in their given arena they cant see beyond. And as far as astrology is concerned it is a divine science but we people find our limitations to unravel the planetry mystery.

The people who invented it they had reached beyond mind state. They were Seers not common human beings.They located astrology through intution in their deep samadhi but we do it from our mind so limitations must be there.

I hope you will not mind my long mail.

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Post by astrospirit » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:49 am

Definately a gifted soul. Some great predictions. Where's lord of the 5th? The 2nd perhaps?

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Post by janakshah » Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:54 am

Hello Anupam,

I know you are not arguing or trying to impose your views. And this is a very nicely written post. Congatulations. My only problem is, I fail to understand what you want to convey. Please let me know.

Do you want to convey that astrology is a far better science than medical science?

Or, that astrologers are far better in diagnosis and doctors lack the knowledge?

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Post by anupam1968 » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:51 pm

Do you want to convey that astrology is a far better science than medical science?

Or, that astrologers are far better in diagnosis and doctors lack the knowledge
Hello Janak,

You have thrown a kind of googli and put me on two edges sword by asking these questions. Okay I still trying to answer these questions. In regard to your first question I would say in a hush hush tone, yes, astrology is far better science than medical science. I cant claim since it is a lost science and we have limited evidences. Still, the things which I witnessed indicate that astrology can fortell what medical science cannot.

Nobody can explain why there was wrong diagnosis of my uncle done by almost all the well known doctors of well known hospitals. Why all the reports were normal inspite of having physical ailment in my uncle's body? And why as soon as he did some astrological remedial measures a common unknown non-specialist doctor found the seat of disease and also cured him. In my uncle's case the spoil sport was rahu since he gives undiagnosed diseases. So, I found the key through astrology.


The young man who was declared near to death by all the doctors revived after reciting the mrituanjaya mantra. For doctors that was miracle since nobody can be saved after taking 80pills and that also including 25 strongest tranquilizers.So, there is something which is beyond the common human perception and no science can find it. We can only find it through astrology or by merging deep into meditation.

The young man was running the period of rahu afflicted by eighth lord. So, a kind of uncertainity and unpredictability was there. And since the period was rahu and aspected by eighth lord saturn(R) so naturally mrituanjaya mantra was the right remedy. But do you think any doctor would believe that the young man revived due to mantra instead of their medicines which were mere means failing miserably before.

You know just 10 years back my father was completely medically fit according to a medical check up done in Apolo. But for me my father's moon placed in the eighth house in aries with sun and getting the aspect of saturn from cancer was a danger signal. It was obviously indicating a kind of disease related with brain and that is what happened 5 years back.
No doctor predicted it or warned him inspite of having regular medical check ups yearly in Apolo.

Why? because moon was in the eighth house so the disease must remain hidden and undiagosed till it comes upon the surface most unexpectedly.

A famous neurologist of India also told my father that for his disease operation is very necessary unless he would not survive more than one year and astrologically I was not seeing anything like that. Now it has been more than five years and he is alive and doing yoga to get rid of his disease. He is much better than before without operation.

By these clues I have understood one thing that there is much more in astrology far beyond our imagination. If I can predict the seat of disease inspite of being ameture in terms of my medical knowledge then a qualified doctor can do a lot through astrology since he is a professional man. He can refine the same combination to get more better results. He can do more research from different angles which I cant since I have just rudimentary knowledge of this field.

That is why as far as diagnosis of the disease is concerned astrology still seems to be upon weaker ground. Still, I think that of course a sound diagnosis also can be done through astrology but for that medical men have to come forward since they have more calibre to complete this work rather the persons like me who have just smattering of medical knowledge.

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Post by anupam1968 » Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:35 am

Hello Astrospirit,

I have my second lord jupiter in the tenth house and fifh house has rahu in pisces. If you want to go through my horoscope here are my details;

9 July,1968, 17/10p.m, new delhi,india.

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Post by Basab » Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:52 pm

dear Anupam ji,
i was going through your chart. did you have health problems in the mars+mercury dasha?

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Post by anupam1968 » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:42 pm

I have very sound health and did not suffer anytime from any major physical ailment except some minor troubles which are the part of life like cough, cold, temperature etc. etc. But ofcourse lot of accidents are there. But anyhow I always saved by a marginal gap. In moon-rahu I got my left hand fractured.

No in mars-mercury I have not fallen ill. There could be small troubles as I described above but nothing serious or recollectable. But of course mars-mercury have given me such kind of spiritual experiences which are still unexplainable for me. All my past births got revealed before me and they were quite unbelieveable since some of them were the well known historical personalities and one birth was of a great saint cum preacher but I will not tell his name since still I am making my mind to believe it.

For your information as soon as my Mars-Mars started my guru appeared before me and told me about my past birth, my future and why I am here. The guru was Yukteshwara who left his mortal appendage in 1925. He is known for his world famous disciple Yogananda who propagated kriya yoga in the west in the 20th century left his body in 1950 in usa.

But I have been always admirer of Vivekananda so I dont know why Yukteshwara appeared before me as my Guru and that also with Ramkrishna Paramhansa sitting in front of him. Precisely as soon as my mars mahadasha started my life took complete u turn. All the things I had mocked at in the past came before me as harsh realities like fairy tales.

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Post by Basab » Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:35 am

thanks for the reply. so the 8th house connection gave you psychic experiences and not health problems as i had thought.

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Post by arsh » Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:03 am

Hello everyone, just joined this forum.

hello Anupamji,

Thank you for sharing your life experiences and birth details here, for us to learn from. I was wondering why your spiritual experiences did not happen at all during the mahadasha of moon, your 9th lord. Also with 5th lord jupiter's aspect on moon?

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Post by tanivi » Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:11 am

Anupamji,

8th lord in 8th house means long life, in your case it is mercury. What would be the result, if it is saturn in Aquarius in 8th house, with 7th aspect of mars and moon ( from 2nd house)? regards,

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Post by tanivi » Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:26 am

Anupamji,

your mercury is in own sign, but in the first five degrees, in the infant stages, though it is not combust. Does it mean that the effect is less than if it had been in the yuva or mature stage?

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Post by anupam1968 » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:37 pm

What would be the result, if it is saturn in Aquarius in 8th house, with 7th aspect of mars and moon ( from 2nd house)? I have read in some books that saturn as 8th lord in 8th house means longevity, but so sorrowful that the logevity is a curse.
Theoritically speaking it means physical ailments, tragedies, neurosis kind of troubles, mental abberations, family troubles.

But they are just the general definations so dont apply to your horoscope in a literal sense. If there are other benefic influences and some other good combinations then the definations can be differed. In your case he is aspected yogakarak mars and lagna lord moon that is why you are interested in astrology.

This can also make you interested in spiritual matters and mystery of life and death.But still it can have some ominious repurcussions which can be uprooted with prayer since yogakarak mars and moon are aspecting it.
your mercury is in own sign, but in the first five degrees, in the infant stages, though it is not combust. Does it mean that the effect is less than if it had been in the yuva or mature stage?
In my case mercury is in infant stage but this is just the one prinicipal out of many to find the strength of a planet. If you go through navamsa you will find he is in kendra and aspected by exalted jupiter. In dasama he is again in the trine and aspected by jupiter involved in dharma karmadhipati yoga. In classical literature the placement of mercury in the eighth house is praised a lot. Still it gave me obstacles in education as soon as I joined graduation as well as post graduation.

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Post by Basab » Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:05 am

Anupam ji,
if the dispositor of a debiliated planet is exalted is it neech bhangya yoga?

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Post by anupam1968 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:05 am

Ofcourse,yes.

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Post by Basab » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:00 am

thanks.

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Post by gold » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:29 am

In classical literature the placement of mercury in the eighth house is praised a lot.
May i know what does it say? I m curious since i do have it in 8th house with sun and veR in zodiac Leo.
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Post by Basab » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:07 am

i don't know what the classical texts says but i have heard an astrologer say that mercury in the 8th house indicates earning a lot of wealth.

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Post by gold » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:36 am

That's interesting ! Any logic into it ?
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Post by tanivi » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:57 am

hello anupamji,

so what sort of ominous signs do you see here? Would it be some painful fatal disease like cancer, or death by accident ( because of the mars and harshal aspect from the 7th house?)

Do other planets affect the outcome of the possible events shown on the 2-8th axis?


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Post by anupam1968 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:39 pm

May i know what does it say? I m curious since i do have it in 8th house with sun and veR in zodiac Leo
Well according to astrological classics eighth lord mercury means learned in shastras, world fame and earning foreign currency. Rao himself says that he has seen the persons having mercury in the eighth house gets world fame like amitabh who is highly spiritual and to some extent superstitious also. He has earned foreign currency as well. Same can be said in terms of rajneesh also. His mercury gave him rise in his pursuit of world guru but ofcourse in a different sense and perspective.

Therotically speaking eighth house is the house of darkness or unsolved puzzles since it gives the unexpected incidents which have no logic whether tragic or beneficial. When malefics come here they enhance the darkness and make the person illusioned in his desires and in return gives him tragic incidents most unexpectedly.

But when benefics come here like in your case yogakarak venus,sun and mercury they dispel darkness by first giving him some bad shocks and then make the person spiritual. But eighth house spirituality is not the common spirituality.

I have seen the dominance of eighth house makes a person a kind of spiritual scientist. His approach is somewhat of deep inquisitiveness like what is life, what is death, what is god. He does not behave like a emotional devotee who goes on dancing in his ecstasy before god. He is more suitable for gyan yoga rather than bhakti yoga. He benefits more by concentrating upon agya chakra instead of anahat,the heart centre.

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Post by anupam1968 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:05 pm

so what sort of ominous signs do you see here? Would it be some painful fatal disease like cancer, or death by accident (
Why you think in such a negative way. I myself have sun ,mars in eighth house aspected debilited saturn. First of all keep one thing in your mind always there is nothing can be happened without reason in this universe. This is said by all sages around the world.

Now take this truth and apply to your horoscope. Now think why there is mars ,saturn opposition on the 2/8 axis. Eighth house is the house of past habits. But habits which belong to the time unknown since the eighth house is the house archeology and signify prehistoric kind of things.

Add to them the planet saturn which signifies old things and that also in the eighth house of chronicity. Aquarius is a kind of new age sign. Saturn is placed in aquarius so combine the old which saturn and eighth house signify with new age due to the sign aquarius. It means the incident is too old and it happened at the juncture when the one yuga was going to be ended and the new age was about to begin.

So, this opposition tells a kind of religious battle in which you took part as a active participant like mahabharta. Why since mars is yogakarak and saturn is placed in his own mooktrikona rashi and aspected by benefic moon.

It means that you have done lot of violence in your last births. But the violence was not unreasonable since yogakarak mars is aspecting the combination and saturn is in his own rashi. If I am going on the right way then your problem will be more on mental level or mental torture than suffer it physically. Since if the violence was for the welfare for others then it might retribute you on you mental level rather giving out physical effects. If the physical effects would have been there then they must be minimal but the mental torture can be untolerable.

Now the thing is how to stop it. The simple remedy is to start mrituanjaya mantra in your meditation and uproot the basic cause. Take avail of saturn in aquarius and aspect of two benefics mars(yogakarak) and moon the langa lord. These combination clearly telling that there is way to come out of the vicious circle which you created in your last births.

I have not gone through your horoscope since I am running out of time. But still by these three planets whatever I felt I told you.
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