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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by Crystalpages » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:16 am

Interestingly, the Boston Marathon bomb blast (April 15, 2013, 14:50, Boston, MA, USA: Source Astrodienst) has #3 and the chart has mars (in 9th) as the common final dispositor and a few other features.

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by shilpa » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:25 am

Crystalpages wrote:Interestingly, the Boston Marathon bomb blast (April 15, 2013, 14:50, Boston, MA, USA: Source Astrodienst) has #3 and the chart has mars (in 9th) as the common final dispositor and a few other features.

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that was exactly one year back.....and even today...sun is back in Aries and Sat still in Libra....... Sun-Sat are in Uchha-Bhanga Yoga until Sun exits Aries in a week or 10 days

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by Crystalpages » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:34 am

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OUCH!! The coincidence (timing, etc.) did attract my attention, hence the earlier posting, but did not think about the additional and potential effect of the lunar eclipse! I wonder if someone more knowledgeable in eclipses can provide us with their thoughts...?

This is probably not astrologically important but yesterday sometime, though I noticed only at about 8 PM that my thermostat was blank! Ultimately it got figured out that it did use batteries (I had completely forgotten about it requiring batteries) and it turned out that that was the problem. The batteries were kind of generic (KIRKLAND) brand and were last replaced some 8-9 years ago! So, folks, sometimes generic products surpass the BIG NAMES costing a lot more!!
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What has batteries got to do with the topic at hand? Can you please try and stick to astrology? Do you remember what you wrote in your now-deleted thread called "simply stated" ?
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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by fluid2finance » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:30 am

I think last yr the mars conjunction into this mix was extremely volatile with all 3 fiery planets - sun, mars and ketu in the most fiery sign of aries (also a violent sign as opposed to leo and saggi which are not "violent")

also this yr with the saturn-rahu degree being large and saturn being in a more "somya" nakshatra of jupiter, i feel bodes better in terms of this transit

None the less to add my $0.01 to the discussion, Rohiniranjan ji...in my experience emperically i did one research yrs back....that when a planet gets combust it is like a new beginning to it once sun crosses over (especially for outer - mars, saturn and jupiter) At this birth the location is important like in a new chart and till the next combustion happens, the planet tends to give results of this sign/ aspects floridly

same i utilize for eclipses and place those transits as vital for those running MD or AD or nodes or luminaries

as an example...lets say taurus lagna person is running saturn MD..saturn when it transits to scorpio from Libra in its 1st forward motion will only meekly give 7th house results for taurus and continue to give 6th house results till it gets combust in scorpio. Once it takes birth in scorpio, it will start 100% results in scorpio. Before that even if it travels upto 8 degrees in scorpio (good penetration) it will only give effects which bridge 6th into 7th (analogous to a planet moving in chalit vs bhav chart)

grahans when they happen in 3, 6 or 11th house from lagna/ moon are good, especially 11th. In 10th they can imply impending changes in career/ job (before next eclipse happens). The change whether good or bad will depend on the yogas, dashas and other heavier transits as well

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by fluid2finance » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:49 am

Hi Shilpa

There is a decently well written book by an individual - Trivedi on saturn. I read it a few years back. He did research on 300 or so horoscopes and tried to ascertain generic rules for the planet saturn, its placements and transits.

I remember one of his conclusions was that when saturn is directly opposite of sun (like right now) and the closer it is to direct opposition which we should be in about 3 weeks from now, he observes that such a saturn gave very good results in most areas it ruled functionally and generically in the horoscope

as an example if saturn is exalted in 7th (obviously directionally strong too in this example) and sun is exalted in aries...saturn gives extremely good results related to career/ business and gains but delays marriage as late as in 40s and sometimes denies marriage completely....

anyways just thought was apt....

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Crystalpages wrote:Interestingly, the Boston Marathon bomb blast (April 15, 2013, 14:50, Boston, MA, USA: Source Astrodienst) has #3 and the chart has mars (in 9th) as the common final dispositor and a few other features.

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that was exactly one year back.....and even today...sun is back in Aries and Sat still in Libra....... Sun-Sat are in Uchha-Bhanga Yoga until Sun exits Aries in a week or 10 days

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by shilpa » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:55 pm

fluid2finance wrote:Hi Shilpa

There is a decently well written book by an individual - Trivedi on saturn. I read it a few years back. He did research on 300 or so horoscopes and tried to ascertain generic rules for the planet saturn, its placements and transits.

I remember one of his conclusions was that when saturn is directly opposite of sun (like right now) and the closer it is to direct opposition which we should be in about 3 weeks from now, he observes that such a saturn gave very good results in most areas it ruled functionally and generically in the horoscope

as an example if saturn is exalted in 7th (obviously directionally strong too in this example) and sun is exalted in aries...saturn gives extremely good results related to career/ business and gains but delays marriage as late as in 40s and sometimes denies marriage completely....

anyways just thought was apt....

Dear F2F,
Thanks for sharing.
what's not clear is if the underlined part means.....generally when sun-saturn are opposite..... or the specific case when they are opposite each other and exalted ( that we are discussing here).....

--generally speaking I have observed in reply to one of the posters on this thread and written else-where on the forum also that Sun-Sa association ( conjunction or mutual aspect) produces responsible leaders....and although stressful it's a good combination to have.

--specific case when they are both in exaltation ( and hence in mutual aspect) is a spoiler ( item no.3) from the charts I have seen with this combo.

--what is also not clear is how many of the 300 case studies done by Sri Trivedi on Saturn .......are of Sun-Saturn opposite?........ and how many of those are actually Sun-Sa in exaltation? ......and what are the specific findings on this smallest sub-group ???....because that is the one in the preview of our discussions on this thread?

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by fluid2finance » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:46 am

Hi Shilpa

I apologize for being unclear

In the book I mentioned, the author emphasizes that saturn retrograde is ALMOST always bad. EXCEPT when it is directly opposite of Sun when saturn tends to give good results..

(he studied 300 plus horoscopes with empahsis only on saturn in a logistical fashion as per his claim) please remind me tomorrow I will check and let you know the exact name of the book (unless I am confusing with some other book, it is called Secrets of Saturn or something like that). having read many books on astrology from a diverse group of writers, I can at least say he has written clearly and approaced the subject in a logical fashion. As for the conclusions, they are ofcourse his own and like always are subjective..

I personally do have this combination (saturn-sun), my father does too, so does my mother and my grandfather had it too. All (except me) were very good leaders and achievers in their fields and I believe saturn imparts discipline to sun and I agree it is not a bad combination. However I DO NOT like combust planets, especially a combust mars or saturn as they can wreak havoc as well. I feel the combination in a same sign is good but ideally should still be 12 degrees or more apart for saturn to maintain its dignity and sun to not be too terified as well (ideally seperate nakshatras)

Mars -rahu - many celebrity horos come to mind right away - clint eastwood in 7th, einstein in 8th...some famous boxers as well etc. So surely gives strength and agression in a personality but ofcourse aspects, shadbalas and other things will matter too, especially nakshatra and rashi depositors as well

I agree with your saturn -sun logic :P


PS: I feel that the saturn - sun conjunction is best for taurus and secondly libra lagna people as both saturn and sun tend to give benefic results for these lagnas. Especially taurus saturn becomes yoga karaka and sun is a benefic owning a kendra. Their conjunction (as long as not too close) is the conjunction of 4th, 9th and 10th lords which is a raj yoga if forming in a kendra or trikona place
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fluid2finance wrote:Hi Shilpa

There is a decently well written book by an individual - Trivedi on saturn. I read it a few years back. He did research on 300 or so horoscopes and tried to ascertain generic rules for the planet saturn, its placements and transits.

I remember one of his conclusions was that when saturn is directly opposite of sun (like right now) and the closer it is to direct opposition which we should be in about 3 weeks from now, he observes that such a saturn gave very good results in most areas it ruled functionally and generically in the horoscope

as an example if saturn is exalted in 7th (obviously directionally strong too in this example) and sun is exalted in aries...saturn gives extremely good results related to career/ business and gains but delays marriage as late as in 40s and sometimes denies marriage completely....

anyways just thought was apt....

Dear F2F,
Thanks for sharing.
what's not clear is if the underlined part means.....generally when sun-saturn are opposite..... or the specific case when they are opposite each other and exalted ( that we are discussing here).....

--generally speaking I have observed in reply to one of the posters on this thread and written else-where on the forum also that Sun-Sa association ( conjunction or mutual aspect) produces responsible leaders....and although stressful it's a good combination to have.

--specific case when they are both in exaltation ( and hence in mutual aspect) is a spoiler ( item no.3) from the charts I have seen with this combo.

--what is also not clear is how many of the 300 case studies done by Sri Trivedi on Saturn .......are of Sun-Saturn opposite?........ and how many of those are actually Sun-Sa in exaltation? ......and what are the specific findings on this smallest sub-group ???....because that is the one in the preview of our discussions on this thread?

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by Crystalpages » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:48 am

Dear f2f,

Is it:
Title: Secrets of Saturn
Author(s): Mridula Trivedi, T. P. Trivedi
ISBN: 9788174766892
Year of Publication: 2010
Format: Soft Cover
Language: English

captured this from the Vedic-net site, to save you some time.

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by fluid2finance » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:51 am

Bingo!

Thanks Rohiniranjan ji.

I think a good book, he has given some good case studies as well

Best,
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Crystalpages wrote:Dear f2f,

Is it:
Title: Secrets of Saturn
Author(s): Mridula Trivedi, T. P. Trivedi
ISBN: 9788174766892
Year of Publication: 2010
Format: Soft Cover
Language: English

captured this from the Vedic-net site, to save you some time.

Cheers!

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by Crystalpages » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:58 pm

Dear f2f,

Thanks!

When we stop, the path never does?

The BOOKS remain? Like Psyche and Cosmos by R.T.??

A good READ!

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by manya » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:39 pm

Dear members,

How to mitigate negative effects of Vish Yoga, if it is there in the chart?

What are the general implications if someone is having this yoga?
I am letting go of the thoughts that do not make me strong.

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by shilpa » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:59 am

manya wrote:Dear members,

How to mitigate negative effects of Vish Yoga, if it is there in the chart?

What are the general implications if someone is having this yoga?

dear manya,

pray to Lord shiva.....chant "Om namah shivay" 108 times daily....listen to or play gently shiv stutis in your home.....offer milk on shivlings as often as you can especially on Mondays and fast wholly or partially on Mondays

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by shilpa » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:19 pm

Dear Manya,
further to the above which is more a general remdy for appeasing moon....here is a specific remdy for Vish yoga.....being shared .courtesy one of the knoweledegable admins of the forum.

..So Chandra kavach is one of the best remedies for vish yoga...http://stotraratna.sathyasaibababrother ... g/n11.htm..

this is written by Gautama rishi and is one of the best remedies for vish yoga along with archana to moon god for 3 consecutive poornimas..
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Re: Chart Spoilers

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by shilpa » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:13 am

Dear vsvs,

--well you have debilitated shani and debilitated Moon....some kind of limited neech bhanga might apply here as Mars is in own house.


--and for libra lagna surya is badhakesh and is in conjunction with Ve the 8th lord ...so a milder version abchichaar affliction is also a possibility-

--and you are running Moon-Shani period natural enemies...both in debility ..and Rahu has been transiting over the Lagna for the last 15 months or so...another stress point.

--sun is ecölipsed by a naegative Rahu also here.

--so my friend there are spoilers in the chart and unfortunately you are running throuhg a very very tough period in life with many negative elements acting simultaneously....and they do not just add up but rather multiply.

---what you could do is find and idol or picture of panchmukhi hanuman and pray to him daily chanting or playing panch mukhi hanumna stotra...that will ease a lot of stress

---and also to strengthen moon pray to lord shiva visit shiv temples...play shiv stuti in the house.

--shani will transit over your debilitated Moon from Nov 2014.......and peak of sade sati will start.
so you have to have faith, patience ,surrender yourself to the divine instead of fighting and feeling bad.....and you will have strength to see through the bad periods.

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by vsvs » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:09 am

Namaste Shilpaji
In all humility, let me thank you with folded hands for your kindness in identifying the spoilers in my chart.Through an initial period of acrimony, this March onwards I am at peace with myself .Prayers & connect with God & the soul have been helpful , also an understanding that bloom in work-life will happen when planetary positions change for better.

---To reduce illeffects of one-or-more of the spoilers , will a combination of CHARITY + prayers help better ?
Do different vedic-texts/astrological streams have any tested remedies for the spoilers ?
---I recite the Hanuman chalisa , should the PanchmukhiStotra be recited instead of the chalisa?
---One important question. I have pulled the last 17 years of my work reasonably well . Do you forsee broadly the remaining
part of my career-life sliding and going Down-the-Hill ? Is it over ..
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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by shilpa » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:02 pm

dear vsvs,

--you can do the panchmukhi hanuman stotra in place of chalisa...that's OK.

--sade sati peak will finish at the end of 2017 sometime.....and Moon MD will finish at the end of 2019...this will be a period where you should aim to hold on to the position you have in career....there will be stresses and hurdles...

--But by setting your expectations realistically, and immersing yourself in prayers, good karma ( yes charitable work will help), and a spiritual approach ....you will pass this phase with relatively less difficulty.

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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by manya » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:17 am

shilpa wrote:
manya wrote:Dear members,

How to mitigate negative effects of Vish Yoga, if it is there in the chart?

What are the general implications if someone is having this yoga?

dear manya,

pray to Lord shiva.....chant "Om namah shivay" 108 times daily....listen to or play gently shiv stutis in your home.....offer milk on shivlings as often as you can especially on Mondays and fast wholly or partially on Mondays

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Thank you Shilpa ji,

I also wanted to know, what exactly does it mean when you say chart spoilers....i mean how does it effect the chart, in what sense, does they effect the person's growth materialistically/spiritualistic/wealth/health?

In case Sat is 4th lord and Moon is 9th lord, then being a kendra lord and kona lord, will this conjunction still give bad effects?If yes then what?
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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by manya » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:21 am

Shilpa ji,

Please repost the link that you have given, I am unable to open....
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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by vsvs » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:53 pm

Namaste Shilpaji
Thanks for your kind reply . I didnt understand the hurdle period mentioned in your post .
In between 2017-19 ....or....Is it period after Moon MD finishes ?
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REFERENCE YOUR POST : sade sati peak will finish at the end of 2017 sometime.....and Moon MD will finish at the end of 2019...this will be a period where you should aim to hold on to the position you have in career....there will be stresses and hurdles...
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Post by shilpa » Thu May 01, 2014 5:45 am

vsvs wrote:Namaste Shilpaji
Thanks for your kind reply . I didnt understand the hurdle period mentioned in your post .
In between 2017-19 ....or....Is it period after Moon MD finishes ?
vsvs

REFERENCE YOUR POST : sade sati peak will finish at the end of 2017 sometime.....and Moon MD will finish at the end of 2019...this will be a period where you should aim to hold on to the position you have in career....there will be stresses and hurdles...
Thanks
you will see a step-down reduction in end of 2017 and further relief at the end of 2019 when Moon MD ends
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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by shilpa » Thu May 01, 2014 5:48 am

manya wrote:Shilpa ji,

Please repost the link that you have given, I am unable to open....
http://varahamihira.blogspot.ch/2004/10 ... akesh.html

i checked and it works
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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by vsvs » Thu May 01, 2014 6:13 pm

Namaste Shilpaji
Thanks for the clarity , I understand the same now.
I stoppped wearing Gemstones as a remedy for spoliers few months back , putting focus on prayers FIRST
Hope this is right according to you .
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Re: Chart Spoilers

Post by sayu » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:01 am

Dear Shilpa ji
I would appreciate your views whether the native's chart is having chart spoilers as her life has come in utter state of confusion. She is divorced, suffering with serious sickness mentally and physically both and she is without any support. Whether she would get some one to stand along with and whether and when her condition will improve relation wise, financially and professionally?
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