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Re: astrological reasons for being alcoholic

Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:34 pm

Now let us undestand what the above Granthas say------Sutras for various lagnas.:-

Drinking habit ( alchohol)--------Shanis Karakatwa.( always away from home is Shani graha )
lAGNA------------------------------indicates ones Jeevana, way of life.
Chandra---------------------------Indicates the fluctuating mind , imbalance Karaka
Kuja--------------------------------Forces the native to act or go for it.


Therefore if Shani in Lagna or
Shani is with Lagnadipathi or
Shani rasyadipathi in Lagna or
Shani aspects lagna

this type of habits can be seen in ones jataka.

Here, one should note that if Shani is in Swakshetra or in his own nakshatra ( pushya, anuradha, uttarbhadra) the drinking habit may be less or limited

If Shani is in Shatru rashi, the habit of drinking alchohol may become too much and the native may spoil his whole life.

If Shani is in Guru, Shukra nakshatra, the habit of drinking may not be there. But may drink occassionally.

If Shani is in Ravi, Chandra, Budha nakshatra the native may drink very often

If Shani is in Kuja s nakshatra, the habit may go LIMITLESS


To be continued----------


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Post by milredr » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:02 am

sir thank u very much for writing again. Sir what does this mean:
.( always away from home is Shani graha )
Nd sir what if Shani himself is lagnadipati?

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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:45 pm

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quote="milredr"]sir thank u very much for writing again. Sir what does this mean:
.( always away from home is Shani graha )
Nd sir what if Shani himself is lagnadipati?
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Dear Madam,

In Uttara Kalamritha, it is said that Shani is the karaka graha for MISSING. leaving the house means , leaving his parents.

Here the 4th house is GRIHA sthana, 12 th house is LEAVING or DISCARDING or VYAYA sthana or GUPTHA sthana.

Shani being a Karaka graha (for missing or leaving out of home ) in 3rd house and should be in 12th lord nakshatra OR

Shani in 12 th bhava and in nakshatra of that Graha which is in 3rd house, the native will leave the house.


Your question---If Shani himself is lagnadipathi :-

1) Answer for Drinking --if Shani is lagnadipathi:-

In this case,Shani should not be either in Swa-kshetra or in his own nakshatra and he should not be efflicted by Papa grahas, only then he fails to limits himself for drinking . Otherwise not.

That means , if Shani in his own nakshatra or swa -kshetra or not efflicted by papa grahas, Shani wont do any harm to the native

2) Answer for Missing, if Shani is Lagnadipathi

In prashna Shastra, Shani is to be seen when a question of missing person or article is asked. Without seeing the Shanis placement in prashna kundali it is not possible to predict and say about the missing person. Shani is to be seen irrespective of lagnadipathi .The question of Lagnadipathi wont comes when u predict the missing person.

For missing -----Shani is to be seen whether he is lagnadipathi or not.


The karakatwa of Shani is --------------MISSING or MOVING AWAY from the house.

In the prediction of jataka also, the same logic has to be taken .

I hope the above answer suffice ur curieosity.

I find difficult sometimes to express my views in english properly and in case u need further understandings , kindly ask Astroboy, he is the right person who can explain u convincingly.
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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:06 pm

Kindly dont interpret wrongly the meaning of the word -"Sex Maniac "or Athi Kaami.

Here Athi -Kaami means the native thinks bad vichaar at home, acts himself as Kaami and hits his wife and starts pestering her for no reason.

Here , Chandra is Kama Graha for men.The reason is men acts as kami when he is involved in duschata ( bad habits ). Kama bhavana comes only when there is no control over mind .That is why Chandra is also the Karaka for Kama in men. With this ,if Shani is along with Chandra the native opts for wrong path by failing to control his mind.

Here Chandras sambandha with Shani should not be in Shanis nakshatra or Shanis swa kshetra or Shani nakshatra.

In this combination of Shani + Chandra, the native will not have the fixed mind or manosthithi. Buddhi gets efflicted every now and then and may lead to dushta kaarya. This will reduce only if Guru or shukra sees them. The native thinks that what he is doing is right but for others, his attitude becomes a head ache.

For eg:- Kuja + Shukra combination is always bad to females. The native will trap herself to bad habits of Athi Kami. Here Shanis drishti is required.

Here Athi Kami means ----Native could not control his mind and hence easily becomes pray to bad habits.
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Re: astrological reasons for being alcoholic

Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:17 pm

Let us concentrate for each lagna :-

Mesha Lagna :-

Kuja in 4th , Shani in 6th------ he will drink publicly

Kuja in 4th, shani in 8th-------drink secretly

Kuja in 4th, Shani in 12th-----By drinking, the native spoils himself by doing adharma Kaarya


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Post by swamykool » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:57 pm

Srinivas ji,

Its really great to see you back after a while. Very interesting post too. :D

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Re: astrological reasons for being alcoholic

Post by anilesh47 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:36 pm

Dear P.Shrinivas rao,

Nice information. Really its an interesting subject.

I want to say about my chart. You may have seen that Saturn is in lagna and in the nakshatra of 12th lord. He aspects on debilitate moon (placed in 3rd) Also mars is aspect on moon. So moon is afflicted by sat and mars. But saturn is not afflicted any papa grah. Actualy saturn is in Kanya sign which is his friendly sign. Despite of lot of planetary relations I was neither a drinker nor even today's date i am drinking. I never used to drink.

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Re: astrological reasons for being alcoholic

Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:45 pm

Mithuna Lagna :-

Kuja in 4th, Shani in 8th------The native will drink even if he dont have the money by taking a loan from his friends.

Shukra in 4th, Kuja in 8th----- The native will sell the property for drinking and never go for the job.

Shukra in 4th, Shani in 12th-------Native will start drinking by moving with bad company of friends.

Karkataka Lagna :-

Ravi in 4th, Kuja in 6th---------gets sickness by drinking .

Ravi in 4th, Kuja in 8th--------Loose his wife because of this and become Athikami.

Ravi in 4th, Kuja or Shani in 12th------Make a habit of drinking by the association of bad company of friends.


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Dear Milred , i made little correction , pl go through again. i am much more elaborative now.


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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:42 pm

Simha Lagna :-

Chandra in 4th, Kuja in 8th-----Sell the property and drink

Chandra in 4th, Shani in 8th-----Because of this drinking habit , the native will make loans to quench his thirst.

Chandra in 4th, Kuja in 12th---- --- By this habit , the native may leads to exreme poverty.

Chandra in 4th, shani in 12th------- By this habit the native will do many papa kaarya.

Tula Lagna :-

Guru in 4th, Kuja in 12th---- Native will give too much mental tension to his wife .

Guru in 4th, Shani in 12th------looses every thing by drinking

Dhanu Lagna :-

Budha in 4th, Kuja in 8th---- Drink to forget the pain in the family

Budha in 4th, Kuja in 12th-----Drink to forget the pain of not having childrens

Budha in 4th, Shani in 8th------spends all his income for drinking

Budha in 4th , Shani in 6th---- Native starts to drink because he could not settle the loan amount

Budha in 4th , Shani in 12th---- Loss from the business and hence starts drinking


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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:53 pm

Makar Lagna :-

Shani in 4th, Kuja in 6th----- Sell his all property for drinking

Shani in 4th, Kuja in 12th----- No peace of mind at home because of this drinking habit

Mesha Lagna :- Chandra is Neecha , Chandra is with shani--------Spoils himself

Vrishabha Lagna :-

Ravi in 6th, Shani in 8th------- Give money to his relatives and friends and starts drinking himself

Ravi in 6th, Shani in 12th------ Cannot bear/ tolerate the criticism and starts drinking


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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:18 pm

Mithuna Lagna :-

Budha in 10th , Kuja in 12th---- --Drinking without paying money through friends .( there by increasing his runa )

Budha in 10th , Shani in 8th----Sell the property and starts drinking

Budha in 10th , Kuja in 8th----- --Not happy in his transfer and thats why drinking

Budha in 10th , Shani in 12th--------loss in money transaction and starts drinking.

Karka Lagna :--

Shukra in 3rd, Kuja in 8th---- Could not bear the pain from death of his wife and starts drinking

Shukra in 3rd, Shani in 6th------ Lost the vehicle and hence starts drinking

Shukra in 3rd, Shani in 8th---- After loosing every thing from the theft at home and starts drinking

Shukra in 3rd, Shani in 12th----- No peace of mind at home and hence starts drinking


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Re: astrological reasons for being alcoholic

Post by milredr » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:18 pm

Dear Milred , i made little correction , pl go through again. i am much more elaborative now.
Read it Sir, Got it thanks.

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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:36 pm

Simha Lagna :-

Kuja in 12th, Shani in 8th------ Out of too much poverty native starts drinking

Kuja in 12th, Shani in 12th---- Drinks for carrying out many papa karyas

Kanya Lagna :-

Guru in 5th, Kuja in 8th---- ---In against to to his wife and childrens , the native starts drinking

Guru in 5th, Kuja in 12th---- drinking after getting money from his childrens

Guru in 5th, Shani in 8th---- suffers too much of problems after drinking habit

Guru in 5th, Shani in 12th------ may suffer problems in his job in this habit

Chandra in Hastha Nakkshatra and in Shani sookshma ( Sub -lord )--- the native suffers problems in his job with this habit

2nd lord in 4th lords sooksma ( sub lord ), nakshatradipathi of 2nd lord is neecha or along with neech graha------ Native starts drinking


Gru Dasha -- Shani bhukthi or Guru Dasha -- Budha bhukthi period, most of the people starts drinking.


Therefore if Shani in Lagna or
Shani is with Lagnadipathi or
Shani rasyadipathi in Lagna or
Shani aspects lagna and having the sambandha of natural malefics

-----------------OR----------------------

if Shani has got the relationship with Lagna lord and if Shani is in Kuja , Ketu or Rahu nakshatra, he will drink beyond limits.

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Post by astroboy » Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:28 pm

Guruji, I have the right horoscope for you to analyse, :)

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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:04 pm

Good Example , Astroboy
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Thus these Navagrahas take their part in every manavas jeevana. We get birth from these navagrahas, with these navagrahas we experience sukh and at last marana ( death ).

Our birth-death-rebirth all are in the hands of these grahas. Whole universe is under the adheena of these grahas. Manava is only a doll of KARMA.

Lord Jaganmatha makes these dolls to play their part, cry. laugh and at last exit from this bhoomi. This is the SANKALPA of Jaganmatha.
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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:20 pm

These grahas strictly follows the order from Jaganmatha.
Grahas becomes Vakri- Asthangatha- Vedha- Kranthi- Neecha- Uchha- Swakshetra- Papargale- Shubhargale- Shatru kshetra- Graha Virodh- all these are seen , experienced and predicted by Maharshis from their divya drishti.

We manava undergoes many many things in our jeevana like-----Janana , Marana, Dhampathya jeevana, Dhampathya Virodh, Court cases, Murder, Extortion, Theft, Kidnapping, grave injuries, Puthra prapthi, Puthra viyog, Bandhu virodh, Loosing property- house- childrens, Dushta kaarya, death from cruel animals, Runa, roga, Daridrya, Poverty, Virodh to the society, Kutumba Virodh, Vidya yoga , Vidya Viyoga, Guru Shraap, Daiva virodh, Thirth kshetra darshan, Theertha kshetra marana, Dheerga roga, Prarabda karma roga, Udyoga, Udyoga heena, Roaming like a vagabond, Aakasmath mrityu, Falling from heights, Durmarana.

These navagrahas wants these to happen in our jeevana( janma ) by sitting in our Jataka Kundali by way of ---- Asthangatha, Vedha, Kranthi, Uchha, Neecha and Vakri etc, etc---.
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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:42 pm

These many, many vichaars , Karma siddhanthas has been kept secret in our Shastras. It is we, who have to study and understand thoroughly, learn more from our Guru and then say the phala . Only then our janma becomes saarthaka ( worthy ).

For that we have to do Aaradhana of Vedha Maatha, Jyothisha Maatha, Gayathri Devi. Only then we could understand sookshma , athi-sookshma vichaars. Ma Bagawathi will come in our dreams and teaches us these sookshma, athi-sookshma vichaars.

This mahan shastra is ours, this is our sanskrithi, this is our hindu dharmas jnana bhandaar. All these has been left to us by our rishis and maharshis.

So let us cultivate, develop, nourish these shastras. By doing this , our pitras will be happy and they will get Sadgathi and we also can live happily in this loka.

This is the Uddesha/ main reason/main motto for writing this article.

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Re: astrological reasons for being alcoholic

Post by ranbir » Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:11 pm

[quote="P.Srinivas. Rao"][b]Now let us undestand what the above Granthas say------Sutras for various lagnas.:-[/b]

[b]Drinking habit ( alchohol)--------Shanis Karakatwa.( always away from home is Shani graha )
lAGNA------------------------------indicates ones Jeevana, way of life.
Chandra---------------------------Indicates the fluctuating mind , imbalance Karaka
Kuja--------------------------------Forces the native to act or go for it.[/b]

Therefore if Shani in Lagna or
Shani is with Lagnadipathi or
Shani rasyadipathi in Lagna or
Shani aspects lagna

this type of habits can be seen in ones jataka.

[b]Here[/b], one should note that if Shani is in Swakshetra or in his own nakshatra ( pushya, anuradha, uttarbhadra) the drinking habit may be [b]less or limited[/b]

If Shani is in Shatru rashi, the habit of drinking alchohol may become [b]too much[/b] and the native may spoil his whole life.

If Shani is in Guru, Shukra nakshatra, the habit of drinking may not be there. But may drink [b]occassionally.[/b]

If Shani is in Ravi, Chandra, Budha nakshatra the native may drink [b]very often[/b]

If Shani is in Kuja s nakshatra, the habit may go [b]LIMITLESS[/b]


[b]To be continued----------[/b][/quote]


hi rao sir
some of the very precise points u made. i have saturn in lagan and iam running its mahadasha also and its in nakshatra of moon and my moon is in nakshatra of rahu.i am also a frequent drinker but like astroboy iam also very weight conscious so sometime leave it altogether for couple of months the saving grace for me is jupiter in lagan my jupiter is also in moons nakshatra.

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Re: astrological reasons for being alcoholic

Post by ranbir » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:47 pm

hi rao sir
In addition to role of saturn what u think about rahus role in drinking habit?
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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:57 pm

ranbir wrote:hi rao sir
In addition to role of saturn what u think about rahus role in drinking habit?


As per me and my experience, the following bava and grahas are to be taken into consideration very much:-

1) 4th house,( lord , his association, drishti to 4th house by malefics )
2) Karkataka Rashi,( -----------Do-------------------------------------------)
3) Chandra or Budhas neechatea,
4) Very very important is SHANI BAGWAN's sambandha

To ur question, my answer is --- If Rahu fulfills the above rules, deffinetely there will be drinking habit of regular alcholoism.

The rule of Rahu is ------If Rahu is not in benefecial sign, he takes the power of its rashiadipathi.

If Rahu is benefecial it gives its benefecial power to its rashiadipathi.

Shani is not like that------ Shani gives the bad (atleast even if is Uchha ) phala -wherever he sits and wherever he sees. This is quite opposite of athyantha shubha graha -GURUS phala.

Suppose Shani is Makara Lagnadipathi----------- he is also called Marakadipathi.( Marakadipathya to natural ashubha graha is not good )

Suppose the Shani is lagnadipathi of Kumba Lagna ---- he is also 12 th lord so he is quite dangerous

Suppose Shani is 9th and 10th lord for Vrishabha lagna ---------there is a rule that Papa graha sambandha should not be there for 10th house, so it is not good

Rest of lagnas, u can make out from the lordrdship for Shani.

( i do agree the Lagnadipathis shubhatwa is more than GURUS shubhatwa. But not always ,pl remember)

Afterall Shani Bagwan is Karma karaka, Nyayadeesh he dont have the system of pardoning the wrong person. If he pardons the wrong person , then the rule of SRASTI will get upside down.

U can plead with any Graha, u may get relief .But in the case of Shani Bagwan his policy is quite different------- he will provide only one and not the both. I mean , if he is benefecial or pleased he will make the native rich but at the same time he will give the SICKNESS simustaneously.

No positive Karakatwa to Shani

" Shani Sham Karothi Ethi Shankara " ( Shanis birth is the Prasad of Lord Parameshwara for loka kalyan ) said by Kashyap Maharshi, Grand father of shani

As per Shabda Kosha , Saamba Kosha grantha, Shani means ----------- Kasht, nasht, dukh, pain

There are lot of things and may not be end for Shanis discussion unless u personally experience in analysing various charts.

So Shani is very , very important factor for DRUNKARD ( Too much drinking or addiction to drinking , unless the Balista Guru sees the Shani or the 4th house. In this case pl note Shani should not see Guru . Whereas Guru should see Shani. I mean there should not be SAMA SAPTAKA drishti by each )

This is only my interpretation and i may be wrong.


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Post by ranbir » Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:36 pm

hi rao sir
thanks for the explanation.
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Post by kunalbhardwaj27 » Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:53 am

Dear Rao Sir,

What are the sootras for education.... What does SAGE PARASHARA and his BPHS say for education.

I mean for schooling, graduation and then higher graduation..


What are the particular bhava s to be seen for education....




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Post by P.Srinivas. Rao » Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:47 pm

Dear Mr Kunal,


Thank u for asking the question with me . As per my knowledge there is no perticular set of RULES regarding the prediction of ones education in a jataka and is quite difficult also.

For example , Jagadguru Sri Chandra Shekaher Bharathi of Sringeri Matt do not had the good education , he was not a well educated swamy. But he was a treasure of KNOWLEDGE, be in adyatmic or in nitya jeevana. People use to call him as -- Chandrashekher Devaru ( GOD ). Even the Maharaja Vadeyar was afraid of talking to him. He was a Sri Chakra Aradhaka.

Any how , i explain the basic SOOTRAS for ur academic interest within a couple of days.

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Re: astrological reasons for being alcoholic

Post by KRN » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:57 am

Dear Rao Sir,

You said,

[quote]For that we have to do Aaradhana of Vedha Maatha, Jyothisha Maatha, Gayathri Devi. Only then we could understand sookshma , athi-sookshma vichaars. Ma Bagawathi will come in our dreams and teaches us these sookshma, athi-sookshma vichaars.

This mahan shastra is ours, this is our sanskrithi, this is our hindu dharmas jnana bhandaar. All these has been left to us by our rishis and maharshis[/quote]

Really appreciate your elevated thoughts.

Would you kindly share a bit about your experiences on Aaradhana of Vedha Maatha Gayathri Devi? That would serve as inspiration to the rest of us.

Regards
KRN

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