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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by explorings » 23 Nov 2011

explorings wrote:Okay, here is a chart to work on:

DOB: Feb 9, 1954
Time: 6:30am
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
(43°03′8″N and 87°57′21″W; Zone/UTC: -6)
Saindhaviji has provided extremely accurate readings for this chart. Kudos!

This chart belongs to Chris Gardner, entrepreneur, stock broker, investor, and philanthropist.

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Childhood and early part of life was full of struggles and limitless challenges. He faced a lot of troubles in marital life, and constant challenges making ends meet as single working father, raising a toddler son and dealing with homelessness.

Mars and Rahu Mahadasha brought financial gains for the native and he began his career as a stockbroker and entrepreneur.

This chart depicts the importance of getting the right dasha at the right time, in order to reap complete benefits of the chart. There is a thread on this forum, about 'what has more weight, mahadasha, antardasha/transits'... Chris' chart is an excellent example to prove that the right dasha can turn a person's life from "rags to riches".

Gardner's personal struggle of establishing himself as a stockbroker while managing fatherhood and homelessness is portrayed in the 2006 motion picture "The Pursuit of Happyness", starring Will Smith.

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This guy continues to be a source inspiration and motivation to all those who have faced downfalls and setbacks in life!



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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by explorings » 23 Nov 2011

I am going to pass on Bronx chart, have been under the weather lately.

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Post by fluid2finance » 23 Nov 2011

nice! all my predictions were spot on! (got lucky I guess!) :D

But i felt that due to L10 and A10 involvement with rahu - speculation related job (stock markets) and venus gives corporate jobs and relations to movies and showbiz...saturn makes leader of people in a job like CEO's etc...

as for right dasha at right time, I could not Disagree more.

Eventually a horoscope will give the whole effects of what it promises, period!

dashas only tell when that will happen and provide relative probabilistic analysis in terms of time structure. Sometimes later, sometimes sooner. But if events are promised in a horoscope, they will happen.

Infact even within a horoscope, you can see that w/o the dashas also. For instance in this case saturn being LL is involved in an unadulterated Sasa yoga which caused the dizzy heights along with L1-L10 interchange...but saturn like wine, gets better only with time and age and after struggles and hard work...

L11 in own house also causes dhana yoga

Saturn MD in this native's horoscope will most likely cause death at an elevated level in life. Saturn is 2nd lord and a Marakesh. It deposits, Rahu - the natural killer and hence double marakesh
saturn also deposits the 8th house lord
saturn is fully aspected by 7th lord - the other marakesh

saturn dasha will most likely be fatal for this native. And the rise in life had to be in other dashas and not venus or saturn even though they are the planets causing the main yogas.

this is almost always true anyways...the raj yogas normally do not act out in the dasha itself, but mostly in MD's of other planets in relation/ exchange or yuti/ connection of the yoga causing planets

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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by explorings » 23 Nov 2011

Hey Fluid:

Yes I may have missed your post... yups u r spot on!!!

Yeah, I too agree that Saturn dasha may bring health related issues to the native. His Mars and Rahu both were involved in financial gains through investments for the native.

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Post by fluid2finance » 23 Nov 2011

hi explorngs

yes, however, as a finance person myself, I know that Mars represents TRADING more than INVESTMENTS...as in short term vs long term...

even though mars in 11th is very strong, in itself mars is an impulsive explosive energy not good in terms of investments

investments like buffet, lynch, graham, fisher and the likes needs patience (a virtue of saturn)

however, i do agree that mars in 11th causes tremendous dhana yoga especially as aspected by a jupiter from 5th....jup in 5th of speculation also is helping a career related to stock markets...

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Post by fluid2finance » 23 Nov 2011

for a succesfull career in investments, one needs:

patience (saturn)
wisdom (jupiter)
intellect (mercury)
not impulsive (a controlled mars)
speculative luck (from a positive Rahu)

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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by sweke » 23 Nov 2011

My attempt on the Bronx chart: I get a cancer lagna.
Lagnadhipati in 8 - self-destructive tendencies if not literally atleast emotionally, psychological problems.
But since 8L in own house - may overcome these with strong discipline and struggles.

4L in 3 debilitated and Mo with Sat - Problematic mother or childhood, early loss of mother maybe.

5L exalted in 7 - very famous. 5h is also 10H from Mo - possibly very famous bcos of his/her profession and intellect/ creativity.

Multiple planets in 5H - fame due to speech/ mass media (3L Me + Su) used to express religion and health secrets (?) (9L + 6L Ju). Me is also 12L and 3L Ve - May also sing or act about foreign countries/ cultures.

Shani in 8L - also denotes strong psychological problems and/or financial troubles - emotional handling of money. That is also aspecting the 5H - so may tarnish the popularity or affect financially.

May have several secret enemies but will eventuall prevail over them - 6L in 5H.

May have met his partner in the same field - 5L in 7. Maybe divorced - rahu in 6.

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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by explorings » 23 Nov 2011

fluid2finance wrote:hi explorngs

yes, however, as a finance person myself, I know that Mars represents TRADING more than INVESTMENTS...as in short term vs long term...

even though mars in 11th is very strong, in itself mars is an impulsive explosive energy not good in terms of investments

investments like buffet, lynch, graham, fisher and the likes needs patience (a virtue of saturn)

however, i do agree that mars in 11th causes tremendous dhana yoga especially as aspected by a jupiter from 5th....jup in 5th of speculation also is helping a career related to stock markets...

I m a dummy in matters of money/finances... for me investments = stock markets, which includes buying and selling. Thts my limited knowledge... so even if you tell me short term vs long term... it is still Hebrew for me! My knowledge of profit, loss, investment, trading, simple interest, compound interest, etc was only limited with high school maths and long forgotten... thts why my credit card bill keep rising day by day :roll:

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Post by fluid2finance » 23 Nov 2011

Explorings:

haha, thats ok...i was also a trained engineer by trade till 2007, didnt know more than profit loss or much more ...

i used to do CFD (computational fluid dynamics) and worked on research projects with NASA in my MS in mech engineering....basically rocket science...most people would have been happy with a good job that i had....but see Rahu hahaha..never satisfied...i wanted to do a MBA...also CFA...each of which individually is enough...but the thirst of Rahu is not satisfied I guess ;)

so now I have 1 kilogram of degrees, lots of knowledge and qualifications...no real drawback but rahu is not letting me find a job :) .....

Like you, In rahu I have lived in 7 different states in US (ranging from 4 months to 3 yrs each) and as for travel, traveled to 46 out of 50 states and almost every decent city in USA, Canada and Mexico....

Rahu the great, I actually love it....would have nothing to complain if I get a job

let me know if you wish to employ me for your credit cards hehehe :P

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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by Saindhavi » 24 Nov 2011

Bronx chart -

1 December 1935
22:55
Bronx NY, USA (40 N 51, 73 W 54)


Somehow I'm getting Leo Lagna in both of my Lahiri softwares. Hence, I'm reading this chart with Leo Lagna -

There are many problems in the Leo Lagna chart -

Venus is debilitated in house of family and wealth, Rahu-Ketu are malefic in 5-11, Mercury and Jupiter are combust at close proximity to Sun, Saturn afflicts Moon and is malefic for the Lagna and the 9th house.

The saving graces are the Lagna Lord Sun strong in 4th and exalted Mars in 6th, who protects the 9th house and the Lagna, though gives a short tempered personality, but also makes the native dynamic. Because of these 2 planets, the native will rule, organise and administer the people under him. A political, military or administrative position is not ruled out.

The native was born in Mars Mahadasha and hence, went through the Mahadashas of malefic Rahu, combust Jupiter, partially malefic Saturn and combust Mercury through most of his/her life.

This chart again shows that this native has struggled through problems and oppositions much of his/her life and finally rose to success. Unfortunately, s/he didn't enjoy properly the Mahadashas of Mars and Sun at the right time and this added to his/her struggles. Emotional problems, depressions and melancholia are quite possible during Saturn and Moon periods, though Saturn brought benefic partnerships to the native.

The secondary chart worth seeing in this case is the Dashamansha (Navansha doesn't rectify most of the problems in the Lagna chart).

In the Dashamansha, Jupiter is well-placed in the Lagna, having a benefic aspect on Saturn and Rahu, 5th and 9th houses. thus, Jupiter has controlled the maleficity of Saturn and Rahu in Dashamansha. 10th lord Sun is well-placed in 2nd, giving wealth and a career in financial administration to the native. Mercury is strong in 12th, giving benefits from distant lands.

Ketu is no longer malefic in Dashamansha.

I feel this native has struggled but his/her hidden strengths in the Dashamansha have given him/her success in career and wealth. The native had a brilliant personality and may have been extrovert with organisational capacity and leadership qualities.
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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by Saindhavi » 24 Nov 2011

Would someone like to contribute a chart?

Otherwise I'll do tomorrow.
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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by mysticriver2003 » 24 Nov 2011

Hello friends,

1 December 1935
22:55
Bronx NY, USA (40 N 51, 73 W 54)
Rodden Rating "AA"


This chart belongs to "Allan Stewart Konigsberg" aka "Woody Allen".

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One of the greatest directors in the history of cinema.
American screenwriter, director, actor, comedian, jazz musician, author, and playwright.
Allen's films draw heavily on literature, sexuality, philosophy, psychology, Jewish identity, and the history of cinema.
He has an estimated net worth of $40 million.

The ultimate pessimist, Allen is an anhedonic, one who is psychologically unable to enjoy himself. Known for his painful courtesy, his generosity and his frantic attempts to avoid publicity, he likes to shop for antiques, visit art galleries and museums. Slight in stature with thinning hair and a worried expression.

Height: 5'5,

The son of Nettie (née Cherrie; November 8, 1906 – January 27, 2002), a bookkeeper at her family's delicatessen, and Martin Konigsberg (December 25, 1900 – January 13, 2001), a jewelry engraver and waiter.

Allen has a sister,'Letty' who was born in 1943 .

His childhood was not particularly happy: his parents did not get along, and he had a rocky relationship with his stern, temperamental mother.

He detested going to Temple, hated school and got bad grades in everything except English. He was also fearful, filled with nameless anxiety that expressed as fear of water, heights, airline stewardesses, dishwashers of Holiday Inns, but most profoundly, fear of the dark and of death. Terribly shy and introverted.

As a young boy, he became intrigued with magic tricks and playing the clarinet, two hobbies that he continues to do today.

He broke into show business at age 15 when he started writing jokes for a local paper and later on went on to become a stand-up comedian, and later did his first theoretical directorial debut "What's up tiger lily"(1966) and still manages to squeeze in atleast One film a year, his latest being 'Midnight in Paris'(2011).

Woody Allen has won 3 Academy Awards and been nominated a total of 21 times: 14 as a screenwriter, six as a director, and one as an actor. He has more screenwriting Academy Award nominations than any other writer; all are in the "Best Original Screenplay" category. He is tied for fifth all-time with six Best Director nominations. His actors have regularly received both nominations and Academy Awards for their work in Allen films, particularly in the Best Supporting categories.

In 1996, Allen received a lifetime achievement award from the Directors Guild of America.

In June 2007, Allen received a PhD degree Honoris Causa from Pompeu Fabra University in Barcelona, Spain.

Relations

Marriages

1. Married and divorced 'Harleen' (15 March 1956 - November 1962).
2. Married and divorced 'Louise Lasser'(2 February 1966 - January 1970). Lasser acted in 3 of Allen's films after the divorce.
3.Married 'Soon-Yi Previn'- (24 December 1997 - present)

Relations that didn't make it to marriage.

Dated 'Diane Keaton' from 1970 and that relation lasted for a year and they remain close friends till date. Diane keaton starred in 5 movies of woody allen.

In the fall of 1979 he met Mia Farrow, who had seven children. They slowly began a relationship early in 1980, wondrous at how different they were. He was then 43 and she, 34. They resolved their opposite tastes for 11 years by living in separate apartments that face each other across Central Park. Though they never lived together they had one biological child and adopted two. The relationship began falling apart in the end of the '80s.

NOTE.

Allen's relationship with "SOON-YI-PREVIN" became a huge scandal as she was one of 'Mia Farrow's' adopted daughter. Even though Allen never married Mia Farrow and was never Previn's legal stepfather, the relationship between Allen and Previn has often been referred to as a father involved romantically with his stepdaughter since he had been perceived as being in Previn's life in a father-like capacity.

In 1991, when the relationship started, Allen was 56 and Previn was 18. The couple has 2 adopted daughters.


Allen spent at least 30 years undergoing psychoanalysis. Many of his films contain references to psychoanalysis.

"Allen says he ended his psychoanalysis visits around the time he began his relationship with Previn. He says he still is claustrophobic and agoraphobic".


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Thanks Hina ji, Dev ji, Sweke ji, Saindhavi ji for having a look at this chat and giving your views.

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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by Hina » 24 Nov 2011

Hi,

I am posting a chart- if you all would like to take a stab-

10 June 1971,
12:27 PM
30n27, 91w09
CDT h5w or 5 hours West of GMT

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Post by sweke » 24 Nov 2011

Okay another attempt by me :) Pisces Lagna.
This chart has a lovely connection betn the houses 5, 9, 10 and 11. Plus several aspects to the 9th house. Mars in 11 being exalted, I feel his shot to fame would have been during Mars dasha - mid 2007 onwards. Famous due to his job position maybe.
LL Guru in 9 in good dignity - may have a pleasing/ appearance.
10L in 9 - job would involve lot of dharma activities - doing good to society, religion, charities or so.
Ma in 11 with Ra - Large and quick gains through marriage or speculation. Many friends - powerful social network.
Venus is in own house also casting aspect on Ju. Some kind of a powerful coroporate leader - possibly in economics field? Or a religious leader maybe :)
Does he/she have several elder siblings?

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Post by Saindhavi » 24 Nov 2011

Thanks, Mysticriver,

It's intriguing how with so many planets in weak or malefic combinations and with a debilitatd Venus he could reach such heights in the show business! :roll:

Perhaps it is true that his Dashamansha chart has played a major role here - with a strong Jupiter controlling the malefics, he could rise in the field he chose for himself.

Perhaps comedy has a link with Jupiter too! :D

Thanks Hina, for the chart. I'll work on it tomorrow.
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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by Hina » 24 Nov 2011

Sweke,

You need to fix th time here- 5 hrs. west of GMT instead of 5.30 GMT East.
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Post by fluid2finance » 25 Nov 2011

June 10, 1971 horoscope:

strong horoscope...leo rising

strong LL and yoga karaka mars exalted in 6th house, destroying enemines. Rahu placed well in 6th house to vanquish enemies

strongest planet in horoscope is Sun with full directional strength and is LL....very good conjunction of saturn and venus in house of profession

person will be hard working and known due to career...4 planets in 10th house affecting career...10th house in 10th...aspected by jupiter and saturn...giving heavy weight in karmic strength...

sun as the strongest planet can make profession in a Government related role or in politics...especially as saturn is also strong representing leader of masses (saturn)

sun own house in navamsha and saturn also in MK in navamsha...showing strong leadership skills

but due to saturn in 10th house and its full aspect on Arudha of 10 A10, rise in life will be only after a lot of hard work and dedication,...

if male native, then saturn conjunct venus will give traditional wife, if female native then orthodox views about relationships
...spouse should be well educated and wise in nature with rigid views

Mars MD from 2001 to 2008 full of success and probably steep rise in career/ name/ fame

rahu MD will reflect mars also as placed well in 6th ...

but less than 1 degree conjunction of mars and rahu can give fatigue due to too much work and also cancer later in life....or some other incurable disease causing suffering.... but strength of depositor will protect this.... there can be a sudden accident/ injury/ surgery or attack by a thief/ terrorist etc during Rahu/ mars comibination around 2025 time frame

rahu/moon will also give disease and hospitalization for some time where native might be diagnosed with a chronic/ terminal illness

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Post by fluid2finance » 25 Nov 2011

also with 12th lord in 5th and 5th lord 12th of 5th,,,(and 4 planets 6th to the 5th house),there will be more male progeny (odd house and jupiter aspect)....but one or more children might suffer ill health or accident which can even lead to loss of the child or his/ her hospitalization....

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Post by sweke » 25 Nov 2011

Thanks Hina for pointing out.
So here's my corrected reading:
I agree with most of the points already stated by fluid2financeji in terms of lagna, career, Rahu influence.
Additionally I see that his career may involve some kind of strong authority (exalted Ma) of services (6H) to the masses/ poor (Shani in 10). 4L and 9L in 6 and exalted - he/she performs lots of services to his native place and his "gurus" (teachers, mentors, alma maters) through his career.
Ma - 4L & 9L - is blessed with good parents and support. They too benefit from the native. Excellent higher education - possibly MBA in social services or some such nature.
Me as 2L and 11L in 10 - lot of wealth gains & friends through his career.
Ve 3L and 10L in 10 - surrounded by women at work -women colleagues? Either diplomatic communication or singing involved in his job maybe.
5L in 4 - he or she is mainly famous in his hometown/ native land.
Ma + rahu in 6 - may be a keen athlete or fitness freak.
If Indian I would've guessed a famous IAS or IFS officer (Foreign services due to Rahu). :)
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Post by fluid2finance » 26 Nov 2011

Hi Sweke,

I am just 30, so no (JI) for me :)

In my experience, a strong Sun in a horoscope gives a person a position in life where he/ she can create a difference and grant life or livelihood or effect the life of many people.....(in a way like sun gives warmth and life to all life on planet earth)

and hence with a strong Sun, usually the natives are working in some Government/ Administrative jobs or if other Raj yogas are there, then working like the government itself (meaning high political office) and otherwise a strong Sun can even mean the Medical profession as doctors tend to help save lives or improve lives of many people

And you are right...if Mars is strong also, some dominant position can been seen...if mars is strongest then military, surgeons, firefighters etc roles are seen....but if sun is strongest with a strong mars then possibily a high political office

I have also observed that mars (representing logic) when strong with Rahu tends to give a person strong analytical abilities in life....i have seen that combination in many PhDs in the sciences and also in the charts of many great scientists....like Einstein had mars+rahu in capricorn in 8th house (8th representing mysteries and occult and the quest to know the unknown or hidden truth)

in this natives horoscope, with mars sitting strong with Rahu, Rahu MD will reflect Mars too, however, not as cleanly as Mars itself was...meaning that It will give the effects of Mars say 70 to 80% of the time and the rest will also be effects of Aquarius (7th house) and its generic karaktwa....giving stress/ scandals/ defamation or sudden ups and downs related to service/ job (6th house) and some sudden need for surgery if the transit and MD/AD combination is as such....

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Re: Celebrities Anonymous...

Post by Hina » 27 Nov 2011

Is anyone else going to attempt this chart?

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Post by Saindhavi » 27 Nov 2011

Yes Hina, sorry for the delay -

This person was born in the Venus Mahadasha and has since then enjoyed a regal lifestyle - no matter whether a royal person or not. I can't think of a Mahadasha which may be too bad for this native.

It's striking that despite so many planets with Sun, none of them is combust and all of them are giving a benefic effect! Jupiter's aspect is especially desirable. Jupiter also gives property to the native.

4-10 axis shows a strong case for business administration of a very high order. This person has amassed wealth and enjoys a lot of power. Saturn bring benefic partnerships in career and personal life.

This person is not only powerful and wealthy, but also well-educated and a very gentle soul, though of an impatient temperament.

f2f and sweke have rightly remarked that almost identical degrees of Mars and Rahu are of cause of concern, especially because the native is running Rahu Mahadasha now and in Gochar the rahu-ketu are malefic in 4-10 axis. I think this would mean the native will have lots of enemies and conflicts at workplace and there will be people backstabbing the native. But eventually s/he will win over them. Hidden disease and attacks on person from hidden enemies is also a possibility during Rahu Mahadasha. But both Mars and Sun protect the native.
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Post by Hina » 27 Nov 2011

Thanks for the reply Saindhavi, anything form explorings & others?

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Post by Hina » 28 Nov 2011

Ok, here it is

You all were so spot on. It is Piyush Jindal aka Bobby Jindal, governer of Louisiana.
Here is the wiki link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Jindal


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Post by Saindhavi » 28 Nov 2011

Hina, thanks for that chart.

I have found Bobby Jindal's political career interesting. At one stage it looked as if he could even run for the Presidential election!

So, it's not business administration, but business and administration. :)

Bobby converted to Christianity while at the university and I wonder which of the combinations influenced that - Rahu afflicted Mars' aspect on its own 9th house? Saturn aspecting 7th? Mercury in 9th in Vinshansha? Saturn aspecting 9th Lord Sun in Vinshansha? Or all of them?

His chart shows that he is going to rise even more in his career and let's hope he does so.
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