10Th Lord In 8Th house

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by Suresh_Chauhan » 19 Dec 2017

The example given by Tylorechandra (TKC) is not a valid one. Why..? Because both exalted Venus as 10th lord and exalted Mars as yogakaraka protect all affairs of 7th house, in natal chart. And above all, from moon chart, it is a very strong kundali with exalted Venus in lagna. No wonder the native had no breaks or career issues because the basic chart is rashi chart .

Natal view is secondary in this case, as Sun also in saturn's house, in turn aspects and protects lagna, and from Moon sign, SATURN not only aspects 10th house, but also lagna with 10th lord, and lagnesha sitting there. Moon sign is the only way to read this chart. 14-Mar-1975, 6.30 PM, Mysuru, Karnataka

To repeat - 8th and 10th lord combinations will cause career problems in most natal charts, if exceptions and overrides are not present.



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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by GNE » 19 Dec 2017

I have 10th lord in 8th, debilitated and aspected by 8-9 lord saturn...
career breaks are all over my life, but it's always self inflicted (choosing to just not work ), but whenever I desire I get jobs easily (self employed), and at past jobs I've risen fast and am often promoted quickly. I've had pretty much zero work issues other than me myself choosing to stop for a while and focus on hobbies or longer-term career plans.
(April 15, 1985. ....10:54 am ....Toronto /Ontario - canada)

just had to chime in, to say 10th lord in 8 doesn't seem to be terrible by default (even if it's in a bad sign for the 10th lord)

Plus there are other factors that shape one's professional life, not just 10th lord from lagna's placement. Especially certain yoga's promising success, power, easy gains,etc. ..... plus 10th lord's navamsa / dasamsa / 10th from moon, sun, arudha, / ashtakavarga / dasha's...etc..

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by joyd » 19 Dec 2017

one more key point is-whenever 10th lord in 8th or 8th lord in 10th,such native has a steep raise in his career after fall and again a deep fall after such raise.

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by Suresh_Chauhan » 19 Dec 2017

GNE, so you confirm that there are breaks in career. whether by own choice, or due to external factors.

Point is - 10th house is most imp. house of career, and therefore has greater status (a man's livelihood is supposed to last for him for his entire lifetime) than even the lagna. For e.g. some person maybe born in a poor family (lagna and 2nd house weak) but strong 9th, 10th houses lead him to fantastic life - the story of "rags to riches", it does happen you know.

Why 10th house so important? It is the MID-HEAVENS at peak hours of day - digbali house for both Sun and Mars. In this house, Sun will be wonderful for a native, as he is right in the sky's midpoint, around noon or 12.30, 1 pm during the day. This literally means the Sun is giving double power to person whose chart has such placement of Sun. Mars may give Ruchak yoga if own house, Capricorn is the Kendra.

Now Executive rise meaans getting to be President or CEO of company, of 10000 or 50000 people. Maybe you even become President of a country, or Chief Minister of your state. That is meant by high executive rise - the maximum allowable in that bracket taking you to higher echelons of society. It does not mean you'll not have a career , yes you will, so will most other people. But may not rise to the top. There are no exceptions to this. You do need clean 10th house and lord, and no interference from 8th lord.

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by tylorechandra » 20 Dec 2017

@Suresh_chauhan,

Regarding example by TKC, pl take the following also into consideration:

1. Venus is in Gandanta
2. Mars is in Mrityu bhaga
3. Jupiter is just out from Mrita Avastha and is fairly close to the Sun.
4. Venus is vargottama in Navamsa indicating he is in 8th amsa also from natal lagna.
5. Venus as the dasa lord doesn't relate so easily to very frequent foreign travels.

Interpretation won't be so accurate when such points are also considered.

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by joyd » 20 Dec 2017

Good ad-ups tylo.

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by GNE » 20 Dec 2017

Yes Suresh, that's all true. And 10th house + 8th can give rags to riches (or riches to rags.)

I was just adding to illustrate to other members that 10th lord in 8th (especially if not strong by sign/aspect) isn't always some horror-story that some people make it out to be. Heck, Amitabh Bachchan has 10th lord in 8, in enemy sign + combust+loosing a graha yuddha too.
I have been through the entire mahadasha of my 10th lord too during my 20's, and it was as I described in my above post. (breaks by my own choice, but jobs were always there when I wanted, and I rose fast in them with ease).

So people should not worry and think they will have no professional life if they have 10th lord in 8th. (suresh I know you know this, I'm not saying this part to you - but I'm just letting other readers or newcomers to astrology know).

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by Suresh_Chauhan » 20 Dec 2017

joyd wrote:
19 Dec 2017
one more key point is-whenever 10th lord in 8th or 8th lord in 10th,such native has a steep raise in his career after fall and again a deep fall after such raise.
What about 8th and 10th lord combining in 12th? TRicky isn't it, we can explain some of them but cannot accommodate for all possible situations

Hint:- Complete MESS of native's career but earnings will be in foreign land/currency

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by Suresh_Chauhan » 20 Dec 2017

Tylorechandra, I'm agreeing with what you're saying.

My take? Venus in gandanta and Mars in mrityu bhaga..... minimal effects, as these planets are inherently fast moving so their effects will change quickly. Here, they are TENDING to mrityu bhaga and gandanta, so its quite controversial how much damage (bad) it really is

"Jupiter fairly close to the Sun" If you're saying this makes Jupiter combust, not possible. Jupiter in the sky is 480 million miles from Sun. The apparent effect of combustion does not apply, more practical to see the real effect what it might be.

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by vee3 » 27 Dec 2017

Hi Everyone,
My husband also has 10L and 8L in 8H.
10L is yogakaraka, but its MD will come only 17 yrs later. By that time he mostly retired(age 60).
Had been working from age 21. Same domain/industry.
Not much breaks. If job loss/change was there he got a better one than previous job. But passed over for promotions(in multiple jobs) even if he was most capable, so no easy rise and had to slog.
His details - 11 sep '74, Calcutta,14:52PM
Just for study....
Thanks & Regards
Vee3

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by Dev » 29 Dec 2017

8th is not a suitable place for 10th lord to be in unless in very special circumstances, for research for eg.

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by viagrawal » 22 Mar 2018

I have my 10th Lord Venus exalted in the 8th House.

9 May 1974, Delhi, 13:48 hrs

Many breaks in Career, still good to very good career patches in between (mid-senior and lucrative roles in MNCs)
Major career setback at the start of and thru the Venus (10th Lord) Bhukti in Moon mahadasha.

Mars mahadasha started recently, what should I expect professionally?

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by sammyho148 » 23 Dec 2018

This thread is relevant to my interest right now....

Meena Lagna with Lagna and 10th Lord Jupiter in 8th house Libra
Rahu in Gemini (4th)
Venus in Leo (6th)
Sun, Saturn and Mercury (R) in Virgo
Mars in Scorpio (9th)
Ketu and Moon in Sagittarius (10th)

Sub periods of Jupiter within other dasha's have been transformative in nature where I have partially/completely change my line of work proactively. All changes in work have been by choice though the going within the period was good and I did not have too much to complain about.

Right now I am running the AD of Jupiter and I have given up a full time corporate job to setup a business into the area of research related to financial markets.

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by tylorechandra » 23 Dec 2018

Mars is a yogakaraka for your chart. However, it is in the nakshatra of Rahu. Rahu is itself involed in a grahana dosha with a Moon in Gandanta. Rahu is in debilitation in Vrischika. Another planet afflicting Mars is Saturn who is also in the nakshatra of Rahu. Mars is situated in the 11th house owned by Mercury who is in the 10th house in the rasi chart but in the 9th in bhava chart. Ketu occupies the 10th house in the nakshatra of Mars.

In respect of profession, new opportunities will be difficult. A sudden opening might come up in the mid 2020 but will not last long.

TKC

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by Aravind » 02 Jan 2019

TyloChandra, so do you consider a Yogakaraka Mars lets say for a Cancer Lagna, in the 8H not a bad placement for profession ?

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by joyd » 02 Jan 2019

@aravind-mars in 8th for cancer lagna treated as neutral placement.so no good and no bad.yogakaraka mars is in dormant state.No professional hazards and no pramotions too.

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Re: 10Th Lord In 8Th house

Post by tylorechandra » 02 Jan 2019

If Mars is friendly with Saturn in panchada maitri, Mars is not badly placed with reference to profession in the 8th house for a Cancer Lagna, according to me. More so, if it is placed in a good position in Navamsa and Dasamsa too.

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