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About Curse and Activation

Post by sphericalin » 12 Mar 2019

How do we see curse in a chart,
1.)should it seen in a sign(Rasi chart) or Bhava chart
2.) When does curse get activated



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Post by joyd » 12 Mar 2019

The 8th house placed planet dasa or the 8th lord dasa of rasi and navamsa surely activates the curse effect.Espley the swa bhukti of 8th and also bhukti of 6th triggers such curses.Transit,natal saturn,nodes plays a key role in triggering them.

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Post by sphericalin » 12 Mar 2019

@joyd Thank you

So, it is 8th Lord always. Anytime, period of 8th Lord occurs, curse will manifest. But, I read somewhere, the curse manifests only in main chart. So, D9, 8th Lord?

What about Part-1 of the question.

I am learning here, so request for views and learning of all scholars.

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Post by astrostar » 12 Mar 2019

sphericalin wrote:
12 Mar 2019
What about Part-1 of the question.
I am learning here, so request for views and learning of all scholars.
Both bhava chart and sign chart to be studied to find out a curse,
bhava chart gives clues on the areas the curse is operating
sign chart and planets involved give clue to find out other details of curse
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Post by sphericalin » 12 Mar 2019

@astrostar thank you

1.) Bhava Chart, is houses. First, which Bhava Chart, I can see chalit chart or KP chart. And house depicts something. Can you please through some light on the curse in house. Like , what does it mean to have a curse on a house.

2.)Sign based curse, how does it work?

So, a sign can be cursed and a planet can be cursed and a house can be cursed, so THREE areas?

3.) What are your views about the activation part

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Post by astrostar » 13 Mar 2019

First we have to know the house in which the curse is operating,
this helps in finding the area of life, where the curse is operating

Next, for more details, we read the sign features and related planets features
A curse can be indicated by house, sign, and planet.

about curse activation times, it depends on nature of curse.
some curses stay activated life long.
some get activated during DBA.
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Post by sphericalin » 13 Mar 2019

astrostar wrote:
13 Mar 2019

A curse can be indicated by house, sign, and planet.

about curse activation times, it depends on nature of curse.
some curses stay activated life long.
some get activated during DBA.
Can you explain by an example, not someone personal details, just a fiction detail.

Lifelong, DBA, How to see?

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Post by astrostar » 13 Mar 2019

lets take an example for life long curse
e.g.1. a person have sun+moon+rahu conjunction in libra sign; both sun and moon are afflicted in birth chart; its a life long curse; so, this person can have life long bad eye sight;
e.g.2. 4th house is afflicted by saturn and 3,8,12 significators; no education life long

for dba curse (dasa bhukti antara or md/ad/pd)
at particular point of time during dba, the curse begins in life, and ends after a few years/months
e.g. 1. staying in jail for a few years
e.g. 2. a boy loves a girl at age 21; she rejects him; and this boy suffers much for a few years;
later, he gets an arrange marriage and forgets about that girl slowly
e.g. 3. no career/income for a few years
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Post by sphericalin » 13 Mar 2019

@astrostar

DBA, I understand..

I did not life long part.

I read that for a curse to happen two malefics, should aspect or conjunct, for sun, moon, rahu, it's just rahu , so is this how we look at it.

And How about the activation via, 8th house...by DBA, I understand that 8th house is not required, is it so?

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Post by astrostar » 13 Mar 2019

Not only 2 malefics rule, there are more rules for a curse. In the case of sun,moon,rahu conjunction in libra, already sun is weak, and moon also weak due to conjunction with sun, and when rahu afflicts such combination, the person gets life long vision defect.

8th house signification can not give curses every time. for example, if 8th house significator signifies 6,11 houses, then, it is a type of raja yoga to native. And also, without 8th house link, there can be curses in horoscope.
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Post by sphericalin » 13 Mar 2019

@astrostar thank you

Can you please share the rules to see curses?

Thank you

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Post by astrostar » 13 Mar 2019

sorry, i can not list out rules, but basically,
consider the afflictions, weaknesses, bad links, etc for curses
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Post by gansub » 14 Mar 2019

But first of all how does one identify a curse in a chart ?

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Post by Dashas » 14 Mar 2019

I know someone whose lagna (capricorn) lord (saturn) is in 8th house with rahu. She is running saturn MD till 2021...would this qualify as a lifelong curse too or could it be lifted once MD is over?

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Post by astrostar » 14 Mar 2019

gansub wrote:
14 Mar 2019
But first of all how does one identify a curse in a chart ?
consider the afflictions, weaknesses, bad links as curses.
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Post by astrostar » 14 Mar 2019

@Dashas
It works as both, life long and dba curse, and after saturn md, intense will be less.
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Re: About Curse and Activation

Post by Dashas » 14 Mar 2019

Thank you astrostar.

As for your statement about sun,moon, rahu in libra. I know someone with this (she also has mars and mercury in libra) and has severe eye issues (retina damaged completely), can barely see with one eye...

For the other horoscope, saturn (LL) and rahu in 8th..she has had a lot of mental illnesses (unmarried, no job)...with saturn MD getting over, could she expect any relief?

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Post by joyd » 14 Mar 2019

@Dash-This topic is very deeper and at the same time dry one.some kind of curses runs generations[this is the reason why 8ht lord is a very key hinter of curses] together[at least 3 generations],some effect the native straight and few affect the natives kith and kins directly and due to this native feels pain and sorry in an indirect way.If someone has ketu in the 2nd house can very fastly experience the effect of curse.By just simply quoting the lagna and lagna lords placements,dasa no one can decide what kind of curse it was.so dont place such meaningless questions.

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Post by astrostar » 14 Mar 2019

@dashas
study next coming mercury md significations. if mercury is also linked to saturn+rahu conjunction in 8th house, then, there will not be any relief. if mercury is not linked to saturn+rahu conjunction in 8th house, as well as, not in affliction, then, she can find relief in mercury md.
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Re: About Curse and Activation

Post by Dashas » 15 Mar 2019

@astrostar, I guess there wouldn't be much relief for her as her mercury is in 10th (getting 3rd aspect from saturn).

@Joyd, I am intrigued by your answer. So, if someone has her birth details they may be able to able to decide what kind of curse? And maybe possible remedies for it?? This person has literally nothing going on for her (mental instability, no job, no marriage, not even willingness to change her life, perpetual depression as if she is just stuck somewhere). If this is a generational curse, could it affect only one kid? (her siblings are doing good).

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Post by joyd » 15 Mar 2019

@dash- we have to use our logic and technicalities.Are all siblings have the same kind of kundalis ?natives saptamsa chart is one of the clues to decide how curses accurately targets their persons.THis is why i am again stressing that this topic is a deeper and dry one.Regarding your given state of her,i dont think she is not at all under any curse but they may be due to other planets combinations and permutations.so we should not decide very eagerly with enthusiasm that it comes under curse.Hope you are enlightened now.

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Post by astrostar » 15 Mar 2019

@dashas. check mercury's other significations
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Re: About Curse and Activation

Post by Dashas » 16 Mar 2019

@joyd, thank you for your insights.

@astrostar, mercury is lord of 6th and 9th house for her. Also mercury is retro, in conjuction with retro venus and moon. So likely 6th and 9th house significations will be activated in mercury dasha.

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Post by astrostar » 16 Mar 2019

@dashas,
ok, in which star mercury is placed ?
take that star lord ownership and placement also
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Re: About Curse and Activation

Post by joyd » 16 Mar 2019

@das-on which day of the week she was born?

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