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Post by shilpa » 23 Apr 2011

aman2209 wrote:Dear Shilpa Ji ,

Dear aman,
who told you astrology can be 90% correct ?

I am not a believer in an approach of proving right or wrong.
Thanks for the feedback
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Dear Aman

Looking at your chart I can safely say that the opportunities for sex and bed pleasures do exist in your life but you do not take these opportunities because of inner spiritualism/guilty . Your chart is best understood by the karakamsha lagna. which in your case is pisces and has in it Ketu. I can see a desire for sex in your chart but you are not letting it materialise yourself which itself is creating prolems and i can see this causing an inclination for extra marital affairs but this is something i would rather discuss privately with you.



First of all I apologise if I offended you with my earlier reply as it was not at all intended & then Thanks for your analysis as I think you are very right here as that is the case with me. Infact I would really like to know your views in private , please spare your valuable time to throw some more light on this so that it can improve for me.

Thanks for your kind cooperation in this regard.

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Hello aman...there are no offenses taken.
you may also be confusing between mine and atri's resposne.
anyway I will look at your PM today.
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Post by aman2209 » 23 Apr 2011

Dear Shilpa ji ,

Thanks for your reply. Infact I did confuse atri's remark with your reply. infact I fail to understand why Mr atri reacted when I didnt address my query to him . I didnt expect anyone else to react as I addressed the query to you anyways I will wait for your reply .

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Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 23 Apr 2011

Dear xlr8ed

In addition see the sign on the 11th Bhava to see what you are obsessive with.

I have Taurus there with Venus in my Ascendant. I am very concerned with safety, secury issues and whether I have enough money on my own to meet my bread and butter needs. Hence resulting in my inaction in taking any actions which may rock the boat. The 2nd Bhava is the 12th of the 3rd Bhava.

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Post by shilpa » 24 Apr 2011

Another contextual sloka that I cam across in Sarvarth Chintami is given below:


If the Lord of Birth is with Mercury, and not aspected by benefics, the person becomes impotent.
Stanza 203 & 201 Sarvarth Chintamani


which merely confirms the orginal observations about the role of mercury in sex life.
whether the person becomes impotent should not be taken too literally....that it will dampen the sex life and hence possibly child birth.
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Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 24 Apr 2011

Hi xl8red

There is 1 more point I want to bring out regarding the 11th Lord placed in the Ascendant.

(A1) It conduces to the person to be even sighted according to BPHS. In my case, I always try to see the merits and truthfulness of both sides of the matter.

There is 1 more point I want to bring out regarding the 11th lord in Ascendant or Ascendant Lord in 11th.

(A2) Inculde Nakshatra rulership as well. Follow the Nakshatra procedure as laid down by my post on the Bhava Lords. If the house is empty, take the Nakshatra lord at the cusp Give an orb of 5 degrees. If the Nakshatras are not empty (either 11th or 1st) take the lord of EACH Nakshatra where a planet is situated and predict accordingly - whether 11th lord in 1st or 1st lord in 11th.

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Post by aman2209 » 24 Apr 2011

Dear Shipaji ,

Please reply to the PM today .

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Post by shilpa » 24 Apr 2011

aman2209 wrote:Dear Shipaji ,

Please reply to the PM today .

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OK sir...i will do my best today
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Post by Virendra » 29 Apr 2011

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9) And finally the 6th house.....if strong tends to drive a person towards celibacy. He will be strong in conquering enemies / adversary and would spend so much time in his conquests that his marriage would be devoid of passion.....6th is the 12th to the 7th...i.e loss of passion from marriage.
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Shilpa Ji / Members,

As it is said that strong 6th house leads to loss of passion from marriage because its 12th from the 7th house, should we consider strong 8th house as a counter weight to it? Specially in case of a female native?
8th becomes 2nd to the 7th house, indicating gains to 7th?

I have a rasi chart where 6th has own sign Sun conjunct Mars and conjunct Mercury who is 7th lord.
Moon is in 7th. Exalted Saturn with Ketu in 8th. Mercury and Moon are combust.
Debilitated Jupiter giving 9th aspect to 7th house. Neecha bhanga of Jupiter for 2 reasons (dispositor Saturn is exlted & Jupiter's exalt. lord Moon is in Kendra)
Saturn is debilitated in D9. 6 planets in and around the 7th house.
Coming to D9 - again the 6th is heavily loaded with 3 planets - exalted Venus (8th L), Ketu and Moon. 7th is empty and 8th has retrograde Jupiter.
Please throw light on what the state of this native's passion in marriage will be and the success of marriage in general.
Sep 15, 1985
1915 hrs
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Female
Native is an MBA from a reputed school. Working as a Bank Manager. I believe D9 and D10 confirm the reasonable accuracy of birth time.

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Post by krishnagopal1968 » 29 Apr 2011

Dear Members,

Before analysing strong 6th house,venus etc, first of all we have to see the ascending sign,moon and aspects to them would greatly indicate the nature of sex life and celibacy.

For example, in general, natives with Venusian ascendents and martian ascendents shall have more inclinations towards sex,sensuality,pleasures etc. Also it applies to moon's placement in these signs.

Other ascendents native's concern would be mostly different. For ex, a cancer ascendent would always have safety and security issues prior to sexual life. Capricorn and aquarius ascendents would want depression and loneliness to leave them and prefer sex to forget about these negativities. Leo ascendent would first want great name & fame, will use by sex if it enhances their superiority. For Gemini and virgo natives mental stimulation comes first and then sex, will use sex if it increases mental stimuli. For jupiterian ascendents, for sagi, mostly it is a play and for pisces it is an escape!!

Then we shall see moon's placement as 'MIND" plays the greatest part in sex life. It's placement in firy, airy,watery signs would indicate phychological tendencies. Here we shall see moveable fire is different from fixed fire etc.... then aspects by malefics and benefics, what role this planets have for the particular ascendent etc. Saturn aspects would show guilt which is nothing but greed and fear and martian aspects would show aggression and passion etc... Here functional nature also if taken into account then very different perspective will emerge.

Infact neither celibacy nor good sex is needed as per my view. Just as food satisfies, sex satisfies and let us take it as much normal as possible. too much discussing about it (like in west) or not even talking about it (as we do in our country!) shall be better avoided.

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Post by shilpa » 29 Apr 2011

Virendra wrote:
shilpa wrote: 9) And finally the 6th house.....if strong tends to drive a person towards celibacy. He will be strong in conquering enemies / adversary and would spend so much time in his conquests that his marriage would be devoid of passion.....6th is the 12th to the 7th...i.e loss of passion from marriage.
Shilpa Ji / Members,

As it is said that strong 6th house leads to loss of passion from marriage because its 12th from the 7th house, should we consider strong 8th house as a counter weight to it? Specially in case of a female native?
8th becomes 2nd to the 7th house, indicating gains to 7th?

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yes that's true....and has been exaplined here on the thread called mysteries of 8th house.

http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... f=1&t=9628

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Post by Virendra » 29 Apr 2011

Thanks a lot for your prompt reply.
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Post by mannu21 » 29 Apr 2011

Dear All

Good day and thanks for this informative thread (especailly to Shilpa ji to initiate it)

As Shrikanth ji quoted any relation between lagan and 11th lord can make a person addicted to some vices.

I have Aquarius lagan and 11th and 2nd lord Jupiter is sitting in 2nd house (Pisces) and aspecting (5th aspect ) the Lagan lord Saturn in 6th house and hence establishing the relation. I must admit that I have tried quite a few what is generally considered "vices" but I have never been addicted to anything for long time. Is this because of the aspect of Jupiter ?

And I feel the placement of 6th lord Moon in 6th in conjunction with Saturn (also 12th lord) is key to keep me away from bedroom pleasures; and most of the time I am involved in something or the other and hardly think about it.

And I have Venus+Rahu conjuction too in chart. So, I guess almost all the principles are present in my chart and makes it quite an interesting chart (a case study) in this regard.

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Post by anxious2711 » 30 Apr 2011

shilpa wrote:

thanks you for the encouraging feedback on yuor chart.
I will look at it today.....I thought Madagascar is a movie :)

I was able to help decide on the ascendant, and general placement of planets to some extent, by giving them 45 min of time window.\ensuring that all those cluster of planets went in the 11th instead of 12th or 8th
Hey,

Thanks to the cartoon, now people at least know the name of the country even if they might not know that it exists :lol:

Anyways, I was wondering what made you choose to put the cluster of planets in the 11th house as opposed to in kendra? If you'd put them in Ascendant than fair enough, Venus would have been in 12th but then Venus always does well in 12th.

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Post by shilpa » 30 Apr 2011

anxious2711 wrote:
shilpa wrote:

thanks you for the encouraging feedback on yuor chart.
I will look at it today.....I thought Madagascar is a movie :)

I was able to help decide on the ascendant, and general placement of planets to some extent, by giving them 45 min of time window.\ensuring that all those cluster of planets went in the 11th instead of 12th or 8th
Hey,

Thanks to the cartoon, now people at least know the name of the country even if they might not know that it exists :lol:

Anyways, I was wondering what made you choose to put the cluster of planets in the 11th house as opposed to in kendra? If you'd put them in Ascendant than fair enough, Venus would have been in 12th but then Venus always does well in 12th.

thanks,

Hello anxious,
i tried other combinations.
Moving that cluster to the 10th house would have moved the Ascendant conjunct with Ketu.
the 1-7 axis of Ketu Rahu is bad for marriage and many other areas of life....the entire ascendat and physical constitution becomes shaky when Ket is with asc.
moving the ascenadnt further clockwise means some key planets turned Du-sthan lords.

so having a cluster of good planets in the 11th was the best we would get.
I tried that the doctor delivered before 24th March...when Sun would have still been in Aries ( exalted) and remaining planets not in the house of sun and combusted....but that also didn't work as the doctro thought it was too early.
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Post by anxious2711 » 01 May 2011

shilpa wrote:
Hello anxious,
i tried other combinations.
Moving that cluster to the 10th house would have moved the Ascendant conjunct with Ketu.
the 1-7 axis of Ketu Rahu is bad for marriage and many other areas of life....the entire ascendat and physical constitution becomes shaky when Ket is with asc.
moving the ascenadnt further clockwise means some key planets turned Du-sthan lords.

so having a cluster of good planets in the 11th was the best we would get.
I tried that the doctor delivered before 24th March...when Sun would have still been in Aries ( exalted) and remaining planets not in the house of sun and combusted....but that also didn't work as the doctro thought it was too early.
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Why not choose to have the cluster in ascendant?
Lagna lord would be in own rashi (though slightly combust), also it would create a lot of Raja yogas.
Venus would be in 12th but it generally does well in 12th (and a functional malefic is well placed in Dusthasana, 8th in 12th gives VRY).
Rahu also does well in 10th and Mars' 4th aspect (trinal lord) on Ketu would create a further Raja yoga.
The ashtakvarga of the 11th house would be extremely high.
Mars in 1st would create Kuja dosha but in a friendly rashi, it also gives good health and strength.
The only issue I guess would be Saturn in 7th, but I don't think it would outweigh the other positive points (the seventh house would receive Guru's positive dhristi).

I am sorry I don't mean to question your reasoning, and I am sorry if I am getting out of line here, but I just wanted to understand better.

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Post by shilpa » 01 May 2011

anxious2711 wrote:
shilpa wrote:
Hello anxious,
i tried other combinations.
Moving that cluster to the 10th house would have moved the Ascendant conjunct with Ketu.
the 1-7 axis of Ketu Rahu is bad for marriage and many other areas of life....the entire ascendat and physical constitution becomes shaky when Ket is with asc.
moving the ascenadnt further clockwise means some key planets turned Du-sthan lords.

so having a cluster of good planets in the 11th was the best we would get.
I tried that the doctor delivered before 24th March...when Sun would have still been in Aries ( exalted) and remaining planets not in the house of sun and combusted....but that also didn't work as the doctro thought it was too early.
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Why not choose to have the cluster in ascendant?
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because by delaying the ascendant was moving clockiwise anf for it to come to that house with cluster...it would have to be after 20 hour...whihc means next day...and there wasn't time to delay the delivery by that as per the doctor
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Post by anxious2711 » 01 May 2011

Oh, ok. So this just proves that a birth cannot be astrologically designed. Maybe she was meant to be born then, maybe you were meant to chose that time frame. It could have been done the same morning but earlier, but I guess even that wasn't possible.
Thanks for your feedback.

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Post by shilpa » 01 May 2011

anxious2711 wrote:Oh, ok. So this just proves that a birth cannot be astrologically designed. Maybe she was meant to be born then, maybe you were meant to chose that time frame. It could have been done the same morning but earlier, but I guess even that wasn't possible.
Thanks for your feedback.
he was born at 9:45 am
and the hospital and doctors started at 8:30 am
so you are right.......there wasn't much of choice that god had given,
and even the little alternation that I was able to provide.....was because that was meant tp be in his destiny
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star_star wrote:Hi,

If jupiter and saturn placed in 12th house for libra ascendant (no benefic aspect) ,does it make strong 12th house?

means native can sleep well and can have bed plessure?

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Post by shilpa » 14 May 2011

star_star wrote:Dear shilpa,

Thanks much for ur response.

It was a general question as i want to ustand how to know the house is strong... generally 12th house is not concidered auspicious but jupiter is a natural benefic.Have seen somewhere in this forum that saturn in 12th makes house strong. hence i raised it.

In my 12th house no planets are there,does it mean house is not strong?
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Lord Brihaspati as the guru of devtaas takes his high moral wherever he goes ( unless he ie debilitated).
In the 12th house he would bring morality to the native's sexual behaviour. Moreover he would allow the native to excercise opportunities towards religious activities and donations.

Saturn discourages sexual activities.

so both together in the 12th house would mean a native restrained, controlled, disciplined, moralistic in his sexual conduct..generally speaking.
That is very generally speaking......the rasi of 12th house and those that Jup and Sat own should also be known....like all things, we must interpret the chart in totality.

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Post by vellothaditya » 05 Jul 2011

Can some one tell me, i am looking forward to celibacy.

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Post by nina » 06 Jul 2011

Hi Shilpa & others,

Great topic.



Shrikanth,
Please clarify what you meant when you said:


Shrikanth wrote:Dear All,

What I've observed is that 3rd house mostly considered bravery, courage, motivation, initiative is also a house of sexual vitality, libido and potency.
In cases where a native has strong sexual desires - the influence of 3rd house (or lord) will enable him to carryout or act on his sexual desires.
If the 3rd house is not involved - then there is an excess of sexual desires in the form of imagination, fantasy, viewing & thinking of sexual imagery etc., - but not
acting on his impulses - like seeking partners.

This would apply to the world outside of sexuality as well. In case of business or enterprise ambitions - the native may think a lot about having his own business, becoming rich and famous, but unless the 3rd is involved - the desire is not taken to the next level of action.

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Do you meant that 3rd lord should influence or be influenced by 7L or 7H or Ve for a native to seek out sexual partners – in the event of the 3rd lord/house being strong ?
And do you mean that an isolated 3rd lord with none of these influences but strong, would have to seek sexual gratification in fantasyland?
Thanks for explaining.



Then you talked about the 11th.
I have lagna lord in the 11th conjunct the 11L. This is a Ju/Ve/Ma conj. for Sag lagna.
And I have none of what you mentioned: obsession/passion/addiction-vice: drinking-smoking-gambling-philandering etc
There are several sides to the 11th – one side is the business/money-making agenda overtly materialistic for instance. I am not into that one bit. Then there is a more spiritual side to it.
The 11th is the house of highest achievement and the house of others. But whatever you get, be it material or spiritual, you have to work for it.
Maybe it helps that my 11th combo is the 9H from Chandra.

Shrikanth wrote:
When lagna lord or the lagna is involved with the 11th house/lord - there is a deep level of ingrained affinity to either obsession/passion/addiction to some vice - either alcohol/smoking/gambling/drugs/women etc., Usually the natural tendencies of 11th lord gives clues about this addiction.
I remember a chart where a Taurus Ascendant had Jupiter and Venus practically conjoined in the lagna. The native was very religious and knew many stotras/mantras - but was a hard core alcoholic and totally wrecked his career and family/domestic life.

Shrikanth

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