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Tantric Sadhanas

Post by GandharvaLord » 06 Jun 2019

Gentlemen,

I was wondering if any of the learned members of this forum have experience with Tantra? That is to say, the ancient grimoires of the Hindu religion.

I've recently come into the possession of some rare texts, and having experimented with conjuration, have had some success in this area. According to the commentaries, these sadhanas, usually through the grace of Shiva, will accelerate one's spiritual development by obliterating the bad karma associated with past deeds.

Anyway, in my experience, this definitely seems to be the case, though there is temptation in some instances. I'd the good fortune of seeing a spirit become manifest before me (most likely a powerful Bhutini). Being curious by nature, I'd like to experiment with other aspects of Tantra, and was wondering if any of the members here have some experiences they'd like to share.

Obviously Tantra can help one overcome certain planetary impediments, and their success is also largely dependent on the planetary energies of certain time.



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Post by GandharvaLord » 08 Jun 2019

Any comments or insights would be greatly appreciated.

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Post by GandharvaLord » 09 Jun 2019

Some astrologers you are! To deny the Tantras is to deny dharma!!!!

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Post by tejomaya » 09 Jun 2019

my comment has been lost, I will try to post again. Invoking bhutinis does not have much to do with astrology-btw.

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Post by GandharvaLord » 10 Jun 2019

The stars should be calculated carefully to accomplish the Bhutini siddhi in my opinion.

Secondly, why do so many seem inclined to condemn such practices these days? These accomplishments come with tangible benefits and expand the mind. Tantra can cure spiritual apathy, and allow one to integrate the metaphysical with the physical.

Some will say that it is pointless to "pursue" siddhis, but I think this is foolish. Who would be so bold as to claim he doesn't need the assistance of spirits or demigods? Who would be so dishonest to claim that he doesn't wish to fly through the air or walk on water?

The sages spoke of siddhis for a reason; it is a beautiful way to commune with God.

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Post by tejomaya » 13 Jun 2019

Your ambition represents kshudra sadhana and is not really the higher form of tantra. Grimoires do not have a part in Indian tantra, which is allied to the broader tradition and is passed on from Guru to Sishya. It is a living tradition . The empowerment of the individual by the Guru is what is most important. Ignoramuses are quick to condemn based on half baked knowledge and hearsay.

I have never heard of Bhutini sadhana being used to further spiritual knowledge. Only the Divine ones have that knowledge and only they can give it to you. Please study under a Guru and do not just do what is there in books. There are specific warnings in Hindu tradition against doing such things- its very dangerous.


I am not comfortable with discussing further but I will repeat- do not rely on books[not even ancient ones]. Even meditation and pranayama need to be learned under a Guru as they can produce adverse results otherwise.Many of the books written now a days are sheer nonsense and represent half-baked knowledge and the ego of the person writing the book.

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Post by GandharvaLord » 13 Jun 2019

Gurus are important, but one can still obtain knowledge from practicing rituals as written in ancient texts. As a resident of the United States, it would be impossible to find a legitimate Tantric guru near me. I would have to travel to India, and my work prevents me from doing this at the moment.

Anyway, as I've said, I've seen some results from practices without a guru. Also, you should know, at the very least, that I'm not merely pursuing siddhis but all sorts of knowledge, and will attempt to invoke the Gods once appropriate. At the current moment, I simply do not have the time or energy to initiate any sort of sadhana, so this thread is intended as a place to discuss one's experiences, as there is nobody in the West who understands.

As for the danger, perhaps I am reckless, but when I obtained these texts, from the ancient cult of Bhairava, I knew that they were placed in my hands by the Gods themselves. There was simply no doubt, as I felt the grace of Bhairava and permission to initiate some of his sadhanas. To depend on a guru when this is not a realistic possibility is cynical and myopic in itself. As I'm sure you know it's hard enough to find a legitimate guru in India, as most legitimate Tantric gurus simply will not discuss their practices.

I can tell you my view: If you obtain an ancient text which fewer than a thousand or so people have read, it must have been ordained by the God of that text.

If you would like to share your experiences, please do so, but to be cynical of the grimoire or its place in the Indian tradition is just as myopic as those who proclaim they could not benefit from a guru.

Just my opinion.

For the record, I had a vision of Bhairava and he warned me against summoning some of the more powerful demigods without guidance, such as the Yakshas, Yoginis, et cetera. Indeed, even after the Bhutini sadhana, I had visions of other realms, but the Gods seem to have forgiven me, as I've paid for this deed in other ways. Bhairava will show you other dimensions, parallel and alien, and will also stop you when you've gone too far. You need only the intuition to know when and where to step, like avoiding snakes in the forest.

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Re: Tantric Sadhanas

Post by Sadhak » 09 Jul 2019

Read the Aghora Trilogy by Dr. Robert Svoboda.

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Post by iladevi19 » 08 Aug 2019

I wonder how thanthra sadhana helps in reaching higher state of consciousness . Thanthras are said to be helpful in attaining mundane desires easily . I was told that thathrasadhana should never be done casually and any lapse would throw the sadhak in to bottomless pit. Only done with total concentration with out having any wavering and engaging in manusha bhavana gives results .

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Post by iladevi19 » 08 Aug 2019

I personally do not do any thanthra sadhana .It is said that SHIVA is the originator of thanthra sadhana and could take one to the highest level of conscious ness which could be possible with Kundalini sadhana . I DO not agree this point . In this belief they do sadhana with panchamakaras and in 90 % of the cases the sadhakas fall down

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Post by tejomaya » 10 Aug 2019

This thread is a perfect example of why one should not ask or take advise from strangers about esoteric practices(like tantra) online. We have above two examples of extremes of thought, both not backed by tradition and practice under a Guru.

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Post by iladevi19 » 10 Aug 2019

I have had a very close contact with some who do it and have got first hand information about that sadhana as narrated by them .Since I could not agree to their views and methods I ventured to comment about that .

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Re: Tantric Sadhanas

Post by tejomaya » 12 Aug 2019

Tantrik works like Saundarya Lahiri( composed by Adi Shankaracharya) or Lalita Sahasranama ? All are tarnished because of something someone said ? An ocean is mapped based on a photo someone saw of it ?

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