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A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 11 Nov 2014

Hi Learned Members

Remember Bhavartha Ratnakara, the classic that gives a lot of scintillating points. Below is from Wikipedia :

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Bhavartha Ratnakara[1] was formerly a little-known Sanskrit treatise on the predictive part of Hindu astrology which is believed to have been written by Ramanuja, it had for a very long time remained confined mainly to the southern parts of India. It was in the year 1900 that Raman Publications, Bangalore, published this text along with its translation into English and comments by Bangalore Venkata Raman,[2] the 10th Edition of which translation was published in 1992 followed by another edition in 1997.[3]

Bhavartha Ratnakara does not cover the entire Phalita portion of Hindu astrology as do other standard texts but selectively lists rules some of which are not to be found in other more renowned texts e.g. the rule which states that a person will be fortunate in respect of that bhava whose karaka is situated in the 12th house from the Ascendant.[4] Scholars have found many of these rules to be effective and revealing e.g. a) the situation of Jupiter in the 8th as the lord of the 9th house, Saturn casting its aspect on the 9th from the 7th house giving rise to yoga during the course of its own dasha,[5] b) Saturn as the simultaneous lord of the 8th and the 9th not acting as an outright benefic giving mixed results only,[6][7] c) Saturn as lord of the 4th situated in the 2nd house in conjunction with Venus and Mercury granting proficiency in poetry,[8][9] d) Venus situated in the 12th house from the Ascendant producing good results and affluence as also when occupying the 6th house.[10] and an exalted planet situated either in the 5th or in the 9th house giving rise to Dhana yoga, making one wealthy, fortunate and famous.[11]

Bhavartha Ratnakara has 384 slokas or verses presented in fourteen Tarangas or Chapters, the First Chapter being the longest containing 130 slokas. It is in this chapter that Ramanuja says that Saturn is not a yogakaraka for Taurus Lagna in spite of the fact that he simultaneously owns the 9th and the 10th bhava. The Second Chapter deals with Dhana yogas, poverty and gain of education. The Third Chapter deals with brothers and the Fourth, with combinations for owning vehicles and general fortune. The Sixth and the Seventh Chapters are inter-linked and in the Eighth Chapter Fortunate Combinations are discussed. The Ninth Chapter deals with Raja yogas and Punya yogas. The Tenth Chapter lists important combinations which enable one to predict the dasha or antra-dasha during whose course death is likely to occur. He Eleventh Chapter gives information about planetary dashas and results. The Twelfth Chapter lists combinations conferring strength to bhavas or harming the bhavas, and the in the Thirteenth Chapter are listed some Malika yogas. The last chapter deals with the fundamental principles of Hindu astrology.

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Notice I have the condition for Jupiter in the 8th and Saturn in the 7th mentioned above. Note also Saturn is not considered a Yogakaraka for a Taurus Ascendant (not because it is a Bhadakesh Lord) according to Bhavartha Ratnakara above. But Saturn is a Yogakaraka for a Libra Ascendant.

If you still do not have a copy of the classic, search for it in Google and you can get a PDF copy of it.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by PV1993 » 12 Nov 2014

I didn't get the first point. Does it mean that the presence of Jupiter in 8th as 9th lord & the simultaneous aspect of Saturn on 9th house from 7th creates the yoga or just the presence of Saturn in 7th?

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 12 Nov 2014

No they are two separate yogas - the one talking about Jupiter and the one talking about Saturn.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 16 Nov 2014

The whole book was entirely quoted in one of the old posts. I will not do that here but take out some additional points made in the book which I feel even most seasoned astrologers are not aware of

[if you know about any of these additional points and you have interesting views to share on them or examples of charts to back them up that would be great].

I hope you like my personal comments.


QUOTE 1

For a Cancer Ascendant, Mercury proves fruitful, but Jupiter does not cause any yoga.

UNQUOTE 1

Most Cancerians are good writers and likes to learn but their spirituality attainment needs some effort, like setting aside some time to read the classical literature, although it still can be done.


QUOTE 2

For a Taurus Ascendant, Venus dasa brings in lots of wealth. Mars dasa also.

UNQUOTE 2

Most Taurean people make good administrators and they are also quite artistic making them suitable as designers and breathing life into an enterprise for example.


QUOTE 3

Natural benefics owning kendra are evil. Natural malefics owning kendra gives rajayoga.

UNQUOTE 3

This is a stronger statement on kendrapathi dosa than the generally accepted view. For example, some astrologers feel that kendrapathi dosa only exists for Mercury or Jupiter since only they can own two kendras. Also if they ruled Lagna (the 1st Bhava) they also escape the dosa.

Notice in the above statement, natural malefics in own signs in kendra and retrogade becomes very good since it combines the above precept with Mahapurusha Yoga and also another dictum by Ratnakara that retrogade malefics becomes good.

(But note for Mahapurusha Yoga the planet cannot be eclipsed (by nodes) or combust or conjuncting Moon or Sun for the full power of the yoga to work.......there are other conditions too explored in an earlier post like certain combination of planets via conjunction should not occur).


QUOTE 4

All such bhavas whose lords are conjunction with the respective karakas become strong.

UNQUOTE 4

This is an interesting statement. For example, if the Lagna Lord conjuncts Saturn, it means the person is healthy because Saturn is a karaka for sickness. But if Saturn rules the 6th like for the Leo Ascendant, because 6th is a Dusthana, health suffers, because here we are referring to functional rulership for the Leo Ascendant.

So remember, to assess both the karaka and the functional rulership effects, when using the above statement, especially if the karaka for the matter relates to a Dusthana.


QUOTE 5

Planets in the 11th and 12th from the Sun possess very swift motion. Such swift motion renders benefics devoid of strength.

UNQUOTE 5

This shows that for (natural) benefics at least, it is best for them to be placed 2nd to the Sun (Vesi Yoga) rather than 12th to the Sun (Vosi Yoga).


QUOTE 6

Unless born in Sagittarius or Pisces lagnas, when Venus and Saturn give rise to yogas in the other's dasa, unfortunate results are to be expected in Saturn's dasa Venus bhukti and Venus dasa Saturn bhukti.

UNQUOTE 6

This shows that what some astrologers has been passing around on the dictum of a combination of Venus and Saturn periods are bad does actually have a reference in the classics.

Why Dhanu and Meena escape the dictum? I think because Jupiter limits Saturn's austerity and Jupiter and Venus both being first class natural benefics and are teachers, Jupiter encourages Venus full play. And Venus protects so that unfortunate results will be downplayed.

Venus and Saturn though good friends, they have different perceptions of how life should be approached in general, so needs Jupiter as a mediator as far as this point is concerned (not in other specific matters like being meticulous).

to be continued.....................

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 16 Nov 2014

QUOTE 7

No pilgrimage will be undertaken by the native during the dasas of the 5th and 7th lords, he'll spend his time listening to God' stories in his time instead.

UNQUOTE 7

Notice that 5th is 9th of the 9th and 7th is the 10th of the 10th. If there is any indication of pilgrimage, it will be the 10th Bhava or the 9th Bhava or the 9th and 10th Bhavas combined.

So this shows that Bhavat Bhavam has limited power sometimes if you go down to deeper interpretations.


QUOTE 8

The native enjoys power and fame if the 5th, 7th and 10th lords are in quadrants and trines.

UNQUOTE 8

This shows that the 5th is not a deal breaker for the 10th if properly strengthened. It also shows that we need the 7th to enhance our standing in the 10th too.


QUOTE 9

If the lords of the 2nd and 11th are associated with lords of the 5th and 9th, dhana yoga exists. If the said planets (2nd and 11th) are asscoiated with lords other than the 5th and 9th, no dhana yoga results, however the native does enjoy moderate wealth.

UNQUOTE 9

Thus do not just latch on to precise wordings in the astrological classical texts. They convey different degrees of a matter and most of the time they just expound what epitomizes the matter best. There could be lesser interpretations and Bhavartha Ratnakara is kind enough to show us this in fact is the case.


QUOTE 10

The full poverty yogas given by Bhavartha Ratnakara are :

(1) If the lagna lord is in 8th, together with lords of 4th and 9th, there's sure to be life long poverty

(2) If there's a parivartana between the 2nd and 12th lords, poverty is certain

(3) If the 2nd lord is in 12th, the 12th lord is in lagna and aspected by a malefic, poverty is indicated

UNQUOTE 10

The poverty intensity and affliction period is most intense and longest respectively from (1), (2) and (3) in ascending order.

4th and 9th lords combined has something to do with luxuries as indicated elsewhere in the classic. So the 8th is the antithesis of good living.

12th is spending and related with the 2nd of savings is usually bad especially the exchange. Otherwise the dispositorship chain has to be looked as a whole like if the 2nd lord goes to the 12th and the 12th lord goes to the 11th, the person do get some gains, since we need to spend in order to gain.

12th lord in 1st is spending for oneself and is usually good unless it is wasteful spending which is indicated by a (natural) maiefic aspecting the 12th lord in 1st at the same time.


QUOTE 11

For Leo Ascendant, Sun-Mercury-Mars or Sun-Jupiter-Mercury conjunction indicates wealth whereas only a Sun-Mercury combination indicates moderate fortunes.

UNQUOTE 11

The point I want to bring here is that Bhavartha Ratnakara in another part of the book indicates that Mercury and Mars are neutral and their combination is usually good if helped by a planet friendly to both, in this case the Sun.


QUOTE 12

Houses which are aspected by Saturn becomes defective, as does the house in which Saturn is posited. However, if Saturn aspects the 3rd and 9th houses, they gain strength.

UNQUOTE 12

This shows that even for a Libra Ascendant where Saturn is a Yogakaraka, this dictum has effect, although in another part of the classic, it was mentioned that the dasas of the 5th and 9th lords is good. So you need patience to get good results from Saturn, whatever the case.

Also for the aspect part, Saturn in 1st is good since it aspects the 3rd and 1st is not a Dusthana, but Saturn in 7th is better since Saturn is digbala and exalted in the 7th aspecting the 9th and 7th is also not a Dusthana. Also 9th is a good house to be aspecting.

Saturn in 6th and Saturn in 12th are the other places where the 9th and the 3rd respectively gets aspected but 6th and 12th are Dusthanas.

Bhavartha Ratnakara only single Saturn in the 7th out as far as the aspectual dimension of Saturn is concerned.

In terms of position of Saturn, Bhavartha Ratnakara singles out Saturn in 3rd or 9th as GIVING PROSPERITY. Rahu in the 7th is another position giving prosperity.

To be continued..................
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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 16 Nov 2014

Bhavartha Ratnakara also says that only for the Sagittarius Ascendant that Saturn in the 11th confers a yoga.

Here it shows Saturn exalted in the 11th.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 16 Nov 2014

Amended the last paragraph of the last post.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 16 Nov 2014

QUOTE 13

For Scorpio Lagna, an association Between Mercury and Jupiter brings wealth.

UNQUOTE 13

Most Scorpio Ascending people make their wealth through writing, teaching and advising (even like Astrology).


QUOTE 14

The native becomes very fortunate if the Moon is in the Lagna in any sign other than Taurus.

UNQUOTE 14

In another part of Bhavartha Ratnakara, it was mentioned that waxing Moon in Lagna makes the person more more independent and not so dependent on others. Anyway in either case, the person is fortunate, and for the waning Moon, the person would then have someone to take care of them.


QUOTE 15

If four benefics are aspected by malefics, the native won’t be very fortunate but he’ll have some wealth

UNQUOTE 15

This means one natural benefic at least in the chart, must escape being aspected by any malefic at all.


QUOTE 16

If malefics occupy the 3rd, 6th and 11th houses, the person becomes lucky

UNQUOTE 16

Notice it is luck that malefics give in Upachaya Houses. All planets in Upachaya houses gives us the chance to improve our lot over time.

But malefics give luck.

And Mercury, Venus and Jupiter (ONLY THEM preferably), gives the possibility of EXTREME LUCK (becoming a billionaire) in the outcome (from other classics).


QUOTE 17

If Venus is associated with Mercury or Jupiter, Venus dasa will be very fruitful

UNQUOTE 17

This yoga is so powerful through experience, that even a simple one-way aspect via dispositorship by sign or Nakshatra, is enough to bring this Yoga into effect.


QUOTE 18

During the dasa of the lords 3rd, 8th and 11th, it produce evil. Even if Jupiter is the lord although it confers prosperity and fame in this case.

QUOTE 19

Basically 6th, 8th and 12th are Dusthanas giving rise to difficulties. 3rd, 8th and 11th are evils because they are houses related anti-dharmic acts of the individual. Examples : 3rd can give loss of life if the lord is associated with Mars, 8th gives unexpected calamities and 11th can ATTRACT diseases. The difficulties given by 6th and 12th are more clear at the surface level and easily pinpointed (evil is usually hidden) and hence remedied.

7th is also out since there are some yogas related to the 7th espeically if it is connected with the 9th (this would be a direct refutation of one member in this forum who told me that 7th combine with the 9th also gives some functional maleficity). Still I would say 7th is a SECONDARY evil house, not on the level as 3rd, 8th and 11th.

8th is both dusthana and evil, so it is particularly evil. But certain planets tenated in it under certain conditions, it becomes very auspicious.


QUOTE 20

Venus in the 10th produces no Yoga

UNQUOTE 20

Venus take on profession is more of taking one's own leisurely time in tackling the career.


If you look through the whole of Bhavartha Ratnakara, nothing is mentioned about 9th lord combining with the 10th lord producing a yoga. In fact there are many a times that it cautions that it is not so even when such lords combine like for the Leo and the Aquarius Ascendants.

Any 9th-10th lord combination would require SOME OTHER CONDITION, to trigger its beneficial effects. But other routes are possible. Like the EXCHANGE between the 9th and 10th lords.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 17 Nov 2014

Note that the Venus and Jupiter combination, although praised above by Bhavartha Ratnakara, in another part of the book, it was mentioned this combination destroys all Yogas for the Leo Ascendant.

So be sure to read the whole book.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by GNE » 17 Nov 2014

I guess Shah Rukh Khan's birthtime is incorrect then (which it could be...)
since he has Venus in Sag, and in mutual aspect to jupiter in gemini. Leo ascendant.

Great info, keep it up!

And I assume someone with all malefics in 3,6,11 from lagna + from the moon wouldbe very lucky
(rahu,mars,saturn+sun. ....yeah no ketu, but one can't ever have both Rah/ket in upachaya)

I agree, My venus is in jupiter's sign and conjunct mercury and I can agree that venus dasa (I only had it's Antardasha, during my jupiter dasha) was very fruitful. best time of my life really.

Anyway, just had to say that about leo rising mostly, since I immediately thought of SRK's chart.

Just checked and noticed Steve Jobs also has this. (venus/jup association for leo rising).

I had to post this so if anyone reading this thread has this starts to panic "I'm loosing all my yogas?" I'd say don't worry..

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 18 Nov 2014

As a matter of fact Bhavartha Ratnakara has another dictum involving Venus.

If Venus associates with BOTH Mercury AND Jupiter, the person becomes rich. This is regardless of dasha operation ie. applies to the life of the individual without regards to dasha activation.

Again through experience, this yoga can apply even weakly like one way dispositorship by Venus for Mercury (instead of mutual exchange) AND Venus conjuncting a node which disposits Jupiter via Nakshatra.

Another configuration that breaks MOST yogas in a chart is :

(not ALL unlike Venus conjnucting Jupiter for Leo Lagna)

When the 10th lord goes into the 3rd Bhava. The exceptions are :

(1) Venus in Libra for a Leo Ascendant. This causes Venus to be a benefic instead even though Venus remains a non-yoga producer ie. it needs some other activation from some other planets to become a yoga.

(2) Jupiter ruling the 10th and going to the 3rd is like Jupiter ruling the 3rd (which is good according to the Libra Lagna - see the earlier post on the example chart for the King of England via the link in this thread).


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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by GNE » 18 Nov 2014

Hey, would Mars for aquarius ascendant be okay though? since mars would be in moolatrikon in 3rd, and mars also likes the 3rd house generally, being upachaya. ?
with the birthtime that most astrologers and websites use for Michael Jackson, it shows he has this placement.
But MJ aside, I was just thinking based on mars being in aries in 3rd should be good, no?

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 18 Nov 2014

Should be lucky according to the general dictum in Bharvartha Ratnakara that natural malefics are lucky in Uppachaya. But nothing is mentioned in the classic about Mars being especially lucky for the Aquarius Ascendant. In this case the dictum that the 10th lord on 3rd causing the breaking of other yogas in the chart should have some hold. Thus Michael Jackson is lucky in work where effort is required to succeed and he does it in a breeze but he is not so lucky in other areas of his life.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 18 Nov 2014

Some minor corrections in the last post.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 19 Nov 2014

Someone emailed to me about Garga Hora as comparable to Bhavartha Ratnakara. But there are differences.

(1) Garga Hora does not start with the various Ascendant types unlike Bhavartha Ratnakara. So the winnowing is not done at the outset to seprate the rice from the husks.

(2) The first section is the general section talking about various planets in various signs bringing about some Yogas.

Firstly most of the combinations in this section are too complex unlike Bhavartha Ratnakara so it limits its general applicability. I suppose this comes about because the author did not separate he various precepts under various Ascendant types first.

Secondly in Bhavartha Ratnakara, the general sections not only comes after the Ascendant types (which comes foremost), the combinations are simple and only those that really have effect in ALL charts like Mercury, Venus and Jupiter conjunction, is it then stated. The real pithy ones.

(3) Subsequent sections are for the planets in various houses - 1, 2, 3, 4 etc. planet combinations for the 1st to 12th houses. It is powerful yet Bhavartha Ratnakara can be real general if it comes to that. Like Bhavartha Ratnakara's precept on :

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Planet conjuncting a karaka becomes strong for that karaka.

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This would be mean the planet would be strong for that karaka significations which CUT ACROSS ALL BHAVAS. If that karaka significations is at odds with what is given for that house conjunction of these two or three or four or five planet conjunction, say, the prediction by Garga Hora gets defeated.

Bhavartha Ratnakara is written by a genius.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 19 Nov 2014

Another Yoga breaker is :

Moon in Taurus in Lagna.

Unlike Moon in other signs in Lagna, when Moon is in Taurus in Lagna, it becomes inauspicious and the dhana yogas in the chart gets broken.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by archer » 19 Nov 2014

Hi

I have Saturn in 3rd house and sun, venus, Jupiter and mercury in 9th house. rahu in 11th house, ketu in 5th house got Jupiter 9th aspects. mars in 12th. moon in Sagittarius. can you read my chart as per bhavartha ratnakara. Saturn aspects 3rd & 9th houses good according to bhavartha ratnakara.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 19 Nov 2014

Some amendment.

Under Quote 18 above, I said that Jupiter under the evil houses of 3rd, 8th and 11th confers prosperity. Actually Bhavartha Ratnakara said that it should be 3rd, 8th and 9th.

Please take note.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by PV1993 » 20 Nov 2014

One thing I know about the classics is that they are cryptographic texts which require intuition as a password.

Anyways, I will share my experiences as I found many of the above to be true in my case and I have a few questions too.

I am a Leo Ascendant with Venus in 1st house aspected by Saturn in 7th. Sun + Mercury + Jupiter is present in 2nd house.

First of all referring to quotes 5 & 12. Venus in 1st house is said to give an attractive body & pleasent personality, RETROGRADE Saturn aspect on it may make it sickly or lean & a cold attitude. Since Venus is in 12th from Sun its devoid of much strength.

This has been absolutely true in my case. I have been a sick child, lazy & have a thin body. I have been often accused of being cold heartedness as I say things directly upon the face. I have average attractiveness. Since Saturn aspects 9th & 4th I have felt being emotionally distant from my parents in the past specially with my Mother (4th house - Rahu + Moon) but its ok now. I am not fully sure about 9th house.

Coming to quote 11 about Sun + Mercury + Jupiter combo. I have it in my 2nd house. I am not rich..... yet because I am still studying. (21 yrs only) and my family has been through serious financial ups & downs for yhe last 7 years and we are a middle class family but yes we never had to face a major problem till now. So I will say this quote doesn't apply fully. This may become active if I start earning or maybe not.

Referring to quote 16, I have Mars in 3rd house which is supposed to give courage & willpower. Although I consider myself a first rate coward & unlucky (I think this is because of Saturn aspect on 1st house), people attribute the reverse to me.

Dasa of 11th lord Mercury started on birth & continued till 2001 (Jyestha Born). Had to change a lot of places. Suffered from a lot of diseases.

Dasa of 3rd lord Venus will is going on & will continue till 2028. I have been seeing mixed results in this dasa. Overall Ketu Dasa was somehow the best for me.

Now coming to my questions:-

1.) Referring to quote 9, in general association of 2nd & 11th lord with 5th and 9th is a Dhana Yoga combo. Does it have to be both of them or any one of them? What about Leo & Aquarius Lagna where Mercury & Jupiter are lords of both 2nd & 11th house? Does their combination with either 5th or 9th lord proves beneficial or does it have to be both of them?

2.) Retrograde malefics lose their maleficience. Correct? In my chart, Saturn is in 7th house gaining Dig Bala, retrograde, in Aquarius, is the strongest planet Shadbala wise & Amsa wise (Paaravata amsa (6/10) Chandana Vana amsa (8/16), Chatra Amsa (5/7) , Chaamara Amsa (4/6) in Dasa Varga, Shodasa Varga, Sapta Varga & Shad Varga schemes respectively), is exalted in Navamsha,recieves benefic aspect from Venus in 1st and is in Kendra from Moon also. Hence it is supposed to be a strong Sasa Yoga. The only problem is that in my KP chart it goes in the 6th house in Capricorn thus losing the Sasa Yoga. Please tell me how do I judge this.

I have heard that the KP chart is used to judge results during a dasha. Considering the post Khoo Sir gave on Retrogression, do I also take in the effect of Saturn in 5th house as it is sitting on 6th in KP chart?

I would be grateful if somebody can clarify me upon the questions.

By the way what happens if Mars being my Yogakaraka & Saturn being in 7th aspect 9th together? Is there a chance of higher education?

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 20 Nov 2014

The 5th and 10th bhavas the respective natural rulerships are again from different camps of planets. So only in the case of Mars for a Cancer Ascendant according to Bhavartha Ratnakara is it considered a Yogakara where Mars obtain a digbala on the 10th. Venus yokaraka for a Capricorn Ascendant is not mentioned by Bhavartha Ratnakara.

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Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 20 Nov 2014

How about 4th with 9th common lordship? Are they mentioned by Bhavartha Ratnakara as yogakarakas? No. But the effect of these two houses together give rise to a luxury yoga.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 20 Nov 2014

Another point I want to make.

Functional rulership is very strong. Then followed by karaka significations. Only then placements in Bhavas come in. Here the planet is making use of the house resources but not really calling the shots. This is then followed by mutual aspects, mutual exchange and 4-10 square aspects and followed by trines as detailed by Shilpa.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 21 Nov 2014

I have read Bhavartha Ratnakara again and the dictum is that 10th lord going to the 3rd or 11th produces no yoga, not that it breaks other yogas in the chart.

In the case of Michael Jackson it would mean he is successful in his career (Mars in Uppachaya in 3rd in Aires) but his karma of the 10th was not good because the 10th lord ended in the 3rd which produces no yoga.

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by GNE » 21 Nov 2014

Ah that makes more sense, that is just produces no yoga itself not hurts other yogas.
as I've seen a few other celebrity charts with tenth lord in 3rd and they did pretty well overall.
also I have a close friend with his placement and he's successful overall in career and one of the richest people I know personally. (Dhan yogas operated).

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Re: A Revisit of Bhavartha Ratnakara After Some Years

Post by Khoo Hock Leong » 21 Nov 2014

Okay let me restate Jupiter's position and rulership with respect to the 3rd, 8th, 11th and 9th bhavas by Bhavartha Ratnakara. There seems to be some confusion.

Lordship
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Jupiter's lordship of 3rd, 8th and 11th confers prosperity and fame. But Jupiter would be evil as 3rd, 8th and 11th bhavas are evil houses.


Placement
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Jupiter's placement in the 3rd, 8th and 9th confers prosperity and fame (here it is 9th and not 11th, it could be a typing error but we will take it as a bona fide assertion). Anyway, all planets do well when placed in the 11th, so there is no need to do a special assertion for Jupiter in the 11th.

Of these three placements, Jupiter if ruling the 9th and placed the 8th is termed VERY AUSPICIOUS.

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